Kitchen gun: .38 spl. vs .44 spl.

Try some "cowboy loads" in that lite. Cowboy loads are a bit tamer.

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Could you tell me more about these cowboy rounds? I've never heard about this before.
I'll try them if I can find them, but it might be that this revolver need some big ol' man hands to deal with it...and that's ok with me. Lol. It might be best to just let the Taurus go and move on, eventually.
 
All things .38spcl will cost significantly less than .44 spcl

.44spcl is “better” at killing things; however, not a single person on this planet will volunteer to be shot by a .38spcl

How much does it pay, can I choose where and is medical included?

You put enough zeros and I'd sell you a foot lol
 
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Could you tell me more about these cowboy rounds? I've never heard about this before.
I'll try them if I can find them, but it might be that this revolver need some big ol' man hands to deal with it...and that's ok with me. Lol. It might be best to just let the Taurus go and move on, eventually.
Apologies @Millie, I told you wrong.

Cowboy loads are a 158 gr. bullet that has a muzzle velocity of 800 fps and 225 ft-lb muzzle energy. Standard 38spl loads from Magtech are 158 gr. 775 fps and 200 ft-lb. This means the cowboy load will have slightly MORE recoil than a standard load (Magtech) 38 spl. Other 38 special loads from winchester, remington, etc list muzzle velocity at 900 fps and muzzle energy at 285 ft-lb for 158 gr bullet, so in that case cowboy load is better..... confusing, I know

I was out this evening and ran across something I havent seen before. 38 special shorts by magtech. It seems these are equivalent to the old 38 short colt cartridges. Magtech says they will work just fine in a 38 spl revolver. The 38 spl short is 125 gr bullet, muzzle velocity of 686 fps, energy 130. This would have significantly less recoil if you wanted to keep the taurus lite. Box of 50 was $22.

All in all, I am with the others. Get you a model 10.



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.44spl is one of my favorite calibers in a handgun.
It can be loaded “soft” or “hot”, its a great caliber for those that cast and reload.
If you are adventurous and don’t mind a gun that is a little bigger and or heavier, then its a great one.
If you like things that are easy to obtain, have no interest in reloading and like shooting smaller framed guns, then the .38 is adequate.
It really depends on your own personal preferences.

And as far as having a gun in every room, why the heck not, the more the merrier.
 
My carry gun is not this revolver I'm looking for. I carry my Sig p238 almost always, even in the house, but sometimes I get up in the middle of the night, and forget to take it with me...hence the "guns in other rooms" thing. I have the bathroom covered (.380 KelTec) and the revolver I hope to replace is in the kitchen if it isn't at the range trying to hurt me. Lol.
As to warming up some revolvers....I intend to do just that very soon! Can't wait! I'll shoot as many calibres as I can and see what works for me.
You have lived your whole life without a gun, don't start thinking you have to have one just to take a tinkle now.

.357, why limit your options?
 
You have lived your whole life without a gun, don't start thinking you have to have one just to take a tinkle now.

.357, why limit your options?
Lol on tinkle.

I've actually owned guns since I was about 25. And I do keep it on me most of the time, but the times it's not, I'd like to have a gun in the most-used rooms....

Not limiting options really, just curious about what answers I'd get. I'll get my hands on as many as I can I can and try them out.
 
You could have shot my SP 101 .357, but you weren’t looking at revolvers at the time.
 
You could have shot my SP 101 .357, but you weren’t looking at revolvers at the time.
This is true! Lol.
I thought at that time that I'd be able to make nice with my revolver....but it looks like it's not going to work.
 
This is true! Lol.
I thought at that time that I'd be able to make nice with my revolver....but it looks like it's not going to work.
She fired my 686+ w .38spl one shot dead center. I put one round in the cylinder and told her in advance. Few clicks then BANG.
 
Millie, try to find some of the full wadcutter target ammo we talked about. They are quite manageable and effective. Accurate too! I think you'll find they're what you're looking for.

One example:
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https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1...38-special-148-grain-lead-wadcutter-box-of-50
 
Millie, try to find some of the full wadcutter target ammo we talked about. They are quite manageable and effective. Accurate too! I think you'll find they're what you're looking for.

One example:
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https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1...38-special-148-grain-lead-wadcutter-box-of-50
I actually tried 5 of the flat ones that Tony gave me from a tray, so no box. And I got a box of 158 gr. (?) round nosed grey ones. Neither was good. The flat ones had lots of smoke, plus gave my hand a big jolt, and the others also gave a jolt while not making as much smoke. (Not sure this gives you any new info!)
 
I actually tried 5 of the flat ones that Tony gave me from a tray, so no box. And I got a box of 158 gr. (?) round nosed grey ones. Neither was good. The flat ones had lots of smoke, plus gave my hand a big jolt, and the others also gave a jolt while not making as much smoke. (Not sure this gives you any new info!)
Hmm... 148gr. target wadcutters are as mild as you can get. There should not be a big jolt definitely less than everything else. Normally, a pleasant and enjoyable load to shoot, even in a snubbie. Admittedly, they may be smokey due to them being lead and depending on the powder used. That's one reason I plan to load my own with plated wadcutters. I want to use it as an all around load on the farm. Can you find out if they were target .38 wadcutters? Did you say you had Hogue grips on that gun? Just trying to find a way for you to keep that gun if you otherwise like it. ;)
 
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Millie a lot has been thrown out here. You might want to try a new grip before spending 100s of dollars on a new gun. I have a Ruger Super Blackhawk that I hated to shoot because of the square trigger guard and bought a set of grips from Altamont COmpany (https://www.altamontco.com/pistol-grips/taurus/m85/). Now I do not mind pulling the trigger.
 
Hmm... 148gr. target wadcutters are as mild as you can get. There should not be a big jolt definitely less than everything else. Normally, a pleasant and enjoyable load to shoot, even in a snubbie. Admittedly, they may be smokey due to them being lead and depending on the powder used. That's one reason I plan to load my own with plated wadcutters. I want to use it as an all around load on the farm. Can you find out if they were target .38 wadcutters? Did you say you had Hogue grips on that gun? Just trying to find a way for you to keep that gun if you otherwise like it. ;)
 
I can ask Tony what they were. And I'll write it down!

As for grips, I haven't changed them, I assume they're the ones that came with the gun. It was new.

I'm just not sure grips are going to stop that shock from traveling from the cylinder to my finger....my coach said this was probably what's going on, I think. The gun is just too light. But I'll see what he has in stock, maybe we can try some. I'll be there for a few hours next lesson.
 
Millie a lot has been thrown out here. You might want to try a new grip before spending 100s of dollars on a new gun. I have a Ruger Super Blackhawk that I hated to shoot because of the square trigger guard and bought a set of grips from Altamont COmpany (https://www.altamontco.com/pistol-grips/taurus/m85/). Now I do not mind pulling the trigger.
I'm going to check into that next lesson....I really do love the revolver....until I pull the trigger! Lol.
Thanks for the link.
 
I can ask Tony what they were. And I'll write it down!

As for grips, I haven't changed them, I assume they're the ones that came with the gun. It was new.

I'm just not sure grips are going to stop that shock from traveling from the cylinder to my finger....my coach said this was probably what's going on, I think. The gun is just too light. But I'll see what he has in stock, maybe we can try some. I'll be there for a few hours next lesson.
I don't know what model gun you have, but we had an Ruger SP-101 in .357 that was a bear to shoot. Putting, Hogue rubber grips in it changed everything. I know there are a lot of other brands and designs out there, but I know the Hogues work. On your gun is the backstrap of the grip exposed metal or is it covered?

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https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1151115031/hogue-monogrip-grips-s-and-w-j-frame-round-butt-rubber
 
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I don't know what model gun you have, but we had an Ruger SP-101 in .357 that was a bear to shoot. Putting, Hogue rubber grips in it changed everything. I know there are a lot of other brands and designs out there, but I know the Hogues work. On your gun is the backstrap of the grip exposed metal or is it covered?

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https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1151115031/hogue-monogrip-grips-s-and-w-j-frame-round-butt-rubber
The whole grip is a piece of thick-ish rubber. I think the model is 85, but I could be wrong. Whatever the 5-shot UltraLite is. It's nice of you to try to help me keep my gun! Lol. As my first NC gun, I kind of have a soft spot for it.....
 
.38 special capable revolvers (including those 357 chambered ones) are great to have around the house...one in every room works. Everybody knows how to use them...caliber consistent room to room. They don't all have to look the same.

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.38 special capable revolvers (including those 357 chambered ones) are great to have around the house...one in every room works. Everybody knows how to use them...caliber consistent room to room. They don't all have to look the same.

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Nice collection!
What are those things in the front of the grip on some of them? Do they make the grip thicker, or give you finger places? I've never seen those before, that I can recall.
 
Millie, this looks like this is the Hogue for your gun, if I looked up the right thing. I'm assuming you have boot grips. These should be larger and help distribute the recoil. And they feel great. The air weights ARE a challenge to shoot. But, if you try this grip and target wadcutters, that is basically as low recoil as you're going to get in that gun and still have an effective load. If that doesn't work, then move on to another gun. If you want to stay with a small revolver, get steel. The weight will go a long way to mitigate recoil. There are quite a few nice used revolvers out there at decent prices.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1...rip-grips-taurus-small-frame-revolver-rubber#
 
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Millie, this looks like this is the Hogue for your gun, if I looked up the right thing. I'm assuming you have boot grips. These should be larger and help distribute the recoil. And they feel great. The air weights ARE a challenge to shoot. But, if you try this grip and target wadcutters, that is basically as low recoil as you're going to get in that gun and still have an effective load. If that doesn't work, then move on to another gun. If you want to stay with a small revolver, get steel. The weight will go a long way to mitigate recoil. There are quite a few nice used revolvers out there at decent prices.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1...rip-grips-taurus-small-frame-revolver-rubber#
I'll try different grips, and see what happens. They have lots at Jim's. I'll be over there in the morning for another training session.
Thanks for taking the time to send a link!
 
Here is my Smith 422 Airweight Centennial Pro with grips. These boot grips were made for concealment of the 15oz revolver.
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Swapped them out for the larger CTC laser grips. Bit harder to conceal in the pocket but more manageable firing.
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For comparison between a 5 shot J frame .38 with a 5 shot Charter Arms Bulldog .44 The Bulldog wears Pacmayer rubber grips and weighs 21 oz.
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Smith 58 N frame .41 Mag, CA Bulldog, Smith 442 and NAA .22LR Mini revolver
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You're setting off a mini explosion in your hands so expect those hands to feel some "jolt".

The thing to focus on is managing that jolt enough to put shots accurately on target.

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