Opinions on CCW caliber

Everyone who answered seriously answered 9. Pretty telling. Me too (not #metoo).

EMP9 IWB under a t-shirt most of the time. Sig 938 when I have to pocket carry. Full size M&P9 Pro with Steamlight when I know I will have a coat pr jacket of some kind on all day.
 
Namerifrats said:
Opened a hot topic here, lol. Kinda figured it might be. I will eventually have a small collection of handguns. For handguns I currently own a CZ82 9mm Mak and a 22LR revolver. Wouldn't really carry either. I just like the look of the Sig Sauer P320 for a first buy over say a Glock. Just me, both feel decent in the hand though. So as for the Sig Sauer P320, anybody here own one? Thoughts on it?
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Love my p320c in 9x19.
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"I wish I had less ammo"....said no one in a gunfight ever.

I carried a G23 for ages, I shot it well and it worked for me. I carry a 9mm Shield or a M&P in 9mm most of the time currently, my wife carries a 9mm, we both switched to shooting 9mm when we shoot a match, practically it made alot of sense.

You have two routes: higher capacity, more smaller holes or lower capacity less larger holes.
9mm vs 40,45, or the next new hotness in calibers, your still comparing apples and apples.

They all perform about the same using good quality ammo. I've found that since switching to 9mm, I tend to shoot more and more often, which is the more important aspect.
 
Namerifrats said:
Opened a hot topic here, lol. Kinda figured it might be. I will eventually have a small collection of handguns. For handguns I currently own a CZ82 9mm Mak and a 22LR revolver. Wouldn't really carry either. I just like the look of the Sig Sauer P320 for a first buy over say a Glock. Just me, both feel decent in the hand though. So as for the Sig Sauer P320, anybody here own one? Thoughts on it?
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Since you currently own a CZ, I would add a CZ PCR or P01 9mm for carry. About the same size as a G19 but much sexier!
 
Jeppo said:
As much as it upsets my stomach to do so, I agree with @Love2shoot. My rationale is that 9mm should get the job done with proper placement (which should be easier than with .40) and standardizing on one caliber means you can afford to keep plenty of inventory of range and SD ammo in the one caliber.
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Why would it be easier to hit with 9mm vs anything else? If 9mm is more accurate I don't know it
 
I suppose it should be easier to control a 9mm pistol than a .40 or .45 of equal size and weight.

No?
 
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Mightyox04 said:
I never had issues with my forty, but I don't carry compact models.
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And that’s great, a lot of people like .40 and shoot it well, but the fact of the matter is....9mm has less recoil and is more controllable, thus making it easier to shoot.
 
Derek8404 said:
And that’s great, a lot of people like .40 and shoot it well, but the fact of the matter is....9mm has less recoil and is more controllable, thus making it easier to shoot.
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But is it more accurate is the question.

Please everyone hear me I'm not putting down 9mm I'm just asking a simple question.
 
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Mightyox04 said:
But is it more accurate is the question.
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40 does have more drop than 9mm. Some people equate that to less accuracy.

Also for single shot static range type stuff not inherently more or less accurate than 9mm.

Throw that into something the size of a shield or kahr and you will see a difference in your speed or accuracy of followup shots between the two.
 
Also 40 is going nowhere. Just with drops in price for 9mm, 45, and especially 10mm other calibers are a bit more attractive. Especially with 10mm. Cause you can get it loaded from about 40 spec, all the way to almost 41mag ballistics
 
Mightyox04 said:
Don't get offended. Recoil doesn't make it less accurate unless you flinch....
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Don’t be a dick. In the perfect world everyone would be a grandmaster but that’s not the case. I suppose you’d like us to believe you never flinch?


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Tailhunter said:
You may want to rethink the caliber. :)
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I've been told that in reference to the KelTec P32 I sometimes carry ( because I can hide it almost anywhere ). And when I'm told my .32 is a wimpy cartridge I reply "Hold still and let me shoot you with it". I haven't had anyone take me up on it yet.

My other carry caliber is 9mm.

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shadowsbane said:
40 does have more drop than 9mm. Some people equate that to less accuracy.

Also for single shot static range type stuff not inherently more or less accurate than 9mm.

Throw that into something the size of a shield or kahr and you will see a difference in your speed or accuracy of followup shots between the two.
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Thanks.

Zbizzle911 said:
Don’t be a dick. In the perfect world everyone would be a grandmaster but that’s not the case. I suppose you’d like us to believe you never flinch?


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I wasn't being a dick. If your butthurt that's fine but calling me a dick is uncool. If you don't like your answer don't get mad at me.
 
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Mightyox04 said:
But is it more accurate is the question.
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No not really, but what I’m concerned with in training for self defense type shooting scenarios is getting multiple hits as quickly as possible. Recoil does play a factor in your maintaining your accuracy, or precision rather, and your groups will open up or your time will increase with harder recoiling rounds.
 
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Derek8404 said:
No not really, but what I’m concerned with in training for self defense type shooting scenarios is getting multiple hits as quickly as possible. Recoil does play a factor in your maintaining your accuracy, or precision rather, and your groups will open up with harder recoiling rounds.
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I generally agree but even firing rapidly I can put all 14 in center mass at 20ft. That's with the FNP40. I don't think at self defense distance you would see a real world difference if you do your part on the first round.
 
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Mightyox04 said:
Thanks.


I wasn't being a dick. If your butthurt that's fine but calling me a dick is uncool. If you don't like your answer don't get mad at me.
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I’m perfectly fine with my answer it was your reply I didn’t care for. Seems as though your the butthurt one. Keep shooting those perfect targets with your 40 and have a great day!


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Mightyox04 said:
I generally agree but even firing rapidly I can put all 14 in center mass at 20ft. That's with the FNP40
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And I don’t doubt for a second that you can. All I’m saying is that you would prob be able to do it faster and have a few extra rounds in the mag with 9mm. But shoot whatever you perfer, .40 certainly isn’t a bad choice.
 
Gator said:
I've been told that in reference to the KelTec P32 I sometimes carry ( because I can hide it almost anywhere ). And when I'm told my .32 is a wimpy cartridge I reply "Hold still and let me shoot you with it". I haven't had anyone take me up on it yet.

My other carry caliber is 9mm.

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Getting hit with a big stick hurts too but it still has a small chance of doing any good when someone is intent on killing you.
 
Zbizzle911 said:
I’m perfectly fine with my answer it was your reply I didn’t care for. Seems as though your the butthurt one. Keep shooting those perfect targets with your 40 and have a great day!


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I wasn't mad until you called me a dick for no reason.
 
Derek8404 said:
And I don’t doubt for a second that you can. All I’m saying is that you would prob be able to do it faster and have a few extra rounds in the mag with 9mm. But shoot whatever you perfer, .40 certainly isn’t a bad choice.
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Now I want to try it with a 9mm. I haven't owned one since 2011ish.
 
I'd have preferred to carry a .45, but I couldn't shoot the G30 worth a crap & Ruger never did make a SR45C. Carried a 1911 for a little while but just too heavy for my bad back. Carried a J-frame .38 Special for a good bit & never felt under dressed, but I could either shoot it accurately or quickly, but not both. I shoot the G26 very well & with the same ballistics & 2.4 times the J-frame's capacity in a concealable, easy to shoot well platform, the 9mm's a no-brainer.
 
Mightyox04 said:
I wasn't mad until you called me a dick for no reason.
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Ive seen Hickok45 shoot a 357 revolver 300 yards as good or better than I shoot 308 at 300. Doesn't mean I'll switch to 357 at 300. It would be terrible advice even though there are people who can do it. If you were bragging about never blinking, good for you because I would too. But it's bad advice for the OP considering the context of the posts. Maybe you weren't being a dick but I'm not sure what you expected it to add to the discussion, again considering context of OP's thread.

Earlier I posted advice you'll hear often when it comes to picking a carry gun. Another you'll often here is the gun you actually carry is better than the gun you didn't feel like carrying and left at home. Sometimes with these NC summers, a 380 in gym shorts and a tank top is all I could conceal.
 
Sevenshot said:
Ive seen Hickok45 shoot a 357 revolver 300 yards as good or better than I shoot 308 at 300. Doesn't mean I'll switch to 357 at 300. It would be terrible advice even though there are people who can do it. If you were bragging about never blinking, good for you because I would too. But it's bad advice for the OP considering the context of the posts. Maybe you weren't being a dick but I'm not sure what you expected it to add to the discussion, again considering context of OP's thread.

Earlier I posted advice you'll hear often when it comes to picking a carry gun. Another you'll often here is the gun you actually carry is better than the gun you didn't feel like carrying and left at home. Sometimes with these NC summers, a 380 in gym shorts and a tank top is all I could conceal.
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I asked why 9mm would hit a person more accurately than any other round, because someone had said it does. His reply was recoil impulse. Not sure what he meant I asked if hes flinching, I don't think it's out of line. I'm not implying that 9mm won't work, infact i know that it does work. If you want to carry a 22lr that's fine with me. I asked a simple question if he regrets saying he's flinching on bigger calibers that's on him. I didn't imply anything I didn't call him a fairy and I never ever said in this thread 40 is better than 9mm or any other caliber.
 
NCFubar said:
Handgun of the size for concealed carry are not going to really have “stopping power” in the true sense of those words ... shot placement is more key (and multiple shots are preferable). To that I say look for (after first being damn reliable) what you shot well, handle easily and WILL carry. Do not count on the tool doing all the work ... the user must know how and be able to use the tool.
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I'm glad you put the quotes around "stopping power".

That's GOT to be one of the biggest pieces of ill-defined, BS slang in the entire gun world.
 
RetiredUSNChief said:
Yeppers. Definitely some thoughts with respect to people's concerns with "over penetration".

Here's my opinion on this particular subject:

QUIT WORRYING ABOUT IT.

"Over penetration" is ONLY a concern IF you hit your target in the first place. Given that the vast majority of shots fired in self-defense AND by police do not, in fact, penetrate the intended target in the first place, "over penetration" is NOT the primary concern.

For concealed carry, my opinion is this: Carry the largest caliber you can reasonably conceal AND shoot effectively. Why? Because in terms of self-defense, bigger and more powerful is better. But it's ONLY better to the extent that you can handle and conceal it in the first place.

This encompasses many aspects that ONLY the person doing the carrying is to be concerned about. Some of these are (not limited to):

- Size of the gun. If you cannot properly grip the gun, nor conceal it properly, then it's too big for your intended use.

- Power of the gun. If you cannot properly handle and control the gun, then it's too much for your intended use.

- Ammunition. If it's not powerful enough to penetrate adequately, then it's not enough. If it's too powerful to effectively control, then it's too much.

- Your capability to carry the weapon of choice. This is subject to many things...if your required dress code won't allow IWB as a practical option, for example, then you need something more suitable for another concealed carry method.

SO:

1. Pick a gun you like that you can shoot effectively and conceal.

2. Pick an ammunition that will provide at least the minimum penetration suitable for self-defense (preferably something that matches your chosen target ammunition in mass and velocity). AND that you can control.

3. Pick a concealed carry means suitable for your choice in weapon(s) AND a proper holster/belt combination.

4. Practice. Practice a lot. Then practice some more.

5. If, after doing the above things, you find another suitable combination of everything...feel free to carry it if you wish. 'Cause that's the beauty of our country: you can own more than one of anything you want.
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What he said X 1,000. I only replied so it could be seen again. WHAT HE SAID!
 
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