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All the time. But I also wear undershirt and button up. Or lab coat. Same with when on the motorcycle or in the woods. Keeps things from getting caught on my hip or bumping into my counter tops at work
Shoulder holsters for EDC…still a “thing”?
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I ain’t tried hats but they might be like my moskersons, won’t fit you but maybe somebody u know could wear it.
If you try one, dedicate a week of wearing it. You’ll go through several adjustments till you find the right fit. Kinda like an ankle holster, you won’t be comfortable till you get it right for you.
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I have the same rig from @RR for my G20 and love it. I even wear it when I’m mowing.
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Does one of these type holsters add to the draw time? I've never really used one. IMO, it seems sorta cumbersome for EDC.
Can an EDC pistol be drawn, fired, and deliver solid hits from one of these holsters in 2.5 sec. or less?
Anybody ever get on a timer and do some testing?
Can an EDC pistol be drawn, fired, and deliver solid hits from one of these holsters in 2.5 sec. or less?
Anybody ever get on a timer and do some testing?
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That would be an interesting test. I think the wildcard is what kind of coat you are wearing might skew the results.
I’ll try and speak to the time factor.
Does it beat an open carry hip holster ? No.
Does it beat an AIWB draw ? No.
Both of those are apples vs oranges comparisons.
With practice, it will tie hip carry or cross draw from a coat. Which is how you’ll carry it. That’s the apples to apples comparison.
2.5 seconds ? No problem. 2.5 is really a long time for a defensive encounter.
Now, let’s get real.
Shoulder rigs are not for idpa matches.
They’re just an alternative to comfortably carry during the “extra clothing” months. I don’t carry one when it’s over 80 degrees and humid. I’m wearing shorts with a g26 (crocs optional).
And, to poke the bear… draw time consideration is over-rated for real DGU encounters. I’m not saying to disregard it entirely, I’m saying it’s not a primary factor. Your situational awareness will either have you doing a covert draw so your gun is already in hand before the work begins, or, you’re totally in reactive mode to loud noises or a punch in the face caused by the bad guys actions.You could argue a shoulder rig draw is a better choice because it has both hands at chest level and capable of strikes/blocks. I would also say it’s easier to defend than hip carry or aiwb from a “gun grab”.
If you want the fastest draw/rounds on target combo, go with pocket carry.
I just hope I haven’t killed another thread. I tried to put some controversy into this one to provoke conversation.
Does it beat an open carry hip holster ? No.
Does it beat an AIWB draw ? No.
Both of those are apples vs oranges comparisons.
With practice, it will tie hip carry or cross draw from a coat. Which is how you’ll carry it. That’s the apples to apples comparison.
2.5 seconds ? No problem. 2.5 is really a long time for a defensive encounter.
Now, let’s get real.
Shoulder rigs are not for idpa matches.
They’re just an alternative to comfortably carry during the “extra clothing” months. I don’t carry one when it’s over 80 degrees and humid. I’m wearing shorts with a g26 (crocs optional).
And, to poke the bear… draw time consideration is over-rated for real DGU encounters. I’m not saying to disregard it entirely, I’m saying it’s not a primary factor. Your situational awareness will either have you doing a covert draw so your gun is already in hand before the work begins, or, you’re totally in reactive mode to loud noises or a punch in the face caused by the bad guys actions.You could argue a shoulder rig draw is a better choice because it has both hands at chest level and capable of strikes/blocks. I would also say it’s easier to defend than hip carry or aiwb from a “gun grab”.
If you want the fastest draw/rounds on target combo, go with pocket carry.
I just hope I haven’t killed another thread. I tried to put some controversy into this one to provoke conversation.
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Looking into getting one for 10mm 1911 6”. More for woods carry and in the truck.
Not to sidetrack, but post a link if you know of a good one. Also run a light sometimes.
Delete if inappropriate for here.
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Not to sidetrack, but post a link if you know of a good one. Also run a light sometimes.
Delete if inappropriate for here.
Thanks
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I like this!
You make some other good points too.
Botch the draw and one will not be able to find enough seconds to add back.
Drawing and then having to rotate the gun 180° to get the muzzle on target seems countetintuitive and time consuming to me.
A shot timer, a few 8" plates at 10 yards, and 200 rounds would probably reveal a lot of info during a range session
I don’t see aiwb as easy to grab as long as it remains hidden. If they grab it in aiwb, your response would be just like a hip carry; lock the hands onto the holster, step back hard (take their balance) and start striking !!
Amen, brother !! Miss the draw and you’re behind the curve, maybe forever…
If you blade your body and draw straight to your chest; there’s no rotation. You pull back and punch out. You just gotta be sure where your support hand is. It’s actually just like a cross draw, but you’re closer to your chest already.
Btw, I qualify every year about this time on a shoulder rig. I make my guys who want to use one qualify as well on the same course/same times as hip holsters. Talk is cheap !
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Absolutely; like an ankle rig. You’ll probably hate it when you first try it; it feels different. Appendix and hip just feel natural for most folks. You either spend some time training it or you ditch it. I feel appendix is not for me. You do you !!
It’s not for everyone, definitely. Hip carry is just easier. It’s only when you start getting some extra spread, have med issues, drive or sit at a desk all day, or have to wear a sports coat… that you really see the value of a good shoulder rig.
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There is people who do the dual wield 1911 in vertical shoulder rig. I've built 4 of them this year and 3 last year. Here's a pic of last one i did about 2 monthes ago before final assembly.
Those look awesome! Like i said that was an old dream of mine. Nowadays i fantasize about new bathrooms and being able to accurately hit my target from 10 yards away. If i can do that, I'll be living the(current)dream🫡.
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Shoulder holsters are awesome when you want to be slow as hell and flag everyone on the line on your draw.
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Funny you posted this ...
You know you want to. Go ahead!
Have the "Miami Classic Rig" for the HK USP, Sig 250. EDC no, but sometimes. Shoulder rig for the Blackhawk and Contender..worked great when hunting.
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I had a job once that while not officially against the "rules" would have been frowned upon to carry.
I carried my Colt Officer's 45 in a shoulder holster. We were supposed to wear a tie so I would wear it under my dress shirt with the buttons behind the tie open.
I thought about an ankle holster for the P32. But then I realized I couldn't reach my ankles.
I carried my Colt Officer's 45 in a shoulder holster. We were supposed to wear a tie so I would wear it under my dress shirt with the buttons behind the tie open.
I thought about an ankle holster for the P32. But then I realized I couldn't reach my ankles.