So Academy Sports sucks too?

And what would the home office say if a customer had stopped the thief? I tend to think the big wigs would be thanking a good citizen for stopping the theft of a firearm and praising the heroic act ... but an employee gets fired. Over a pair of shoes, clothing or such I can see a no touchy policy but grab and dash on a firearm means Academy has let a gun get out that is going to end up in the wrong hands.

While not the level of Dick’s or such this HR ruling needs to be replied to by phone, email or both ... “Your decision to fire Mr Dean Couch for stopping a firearm theft is approaching actions like Dick’s Sporting Goods and others. I will be rethinking my patronage of your company due to this action ... and so on” . Next they might start caving on selling certain “questionable” firearm items. I like Academy but the slippery slope is had to get back up.
 
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i get that businesses are fearful of lawsuits - attorneys and perpetual "victims" are abusing the system at everyone's expense. but for once id really like to see a company stand up for whats right.

saw this in comments of the story. while not reaching the level of dicks sporting goods - im still going to call and tell them what i think.

Call their customer service and let them know you are boycotting their store. It is 888-922-2336. I called and lodged my displeasure and told the rep we will not be shopping their stores anymore. He said they are being inundated with people calling and supporting the employee. If you haven't called yet please do so as all complaints do receive a tracking number.
 
Had a situation where two associates witnessed child abduction,
One followed at safe distance relaying info, police arrived to help.
Turn out to be a family custody case, they fired both men.
Home Depot corporate reinstated both men after 'reviewing'.
 
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Let's play what if for a moment.... What if Mr. White had been successful in stealing the gun, which was witnessed by several employees who did nothing to stop Mr. White. What if Mr. White hijacked my wife using said stolen gun 2 blocks away and then shot and killed her with said stolen gun. Do you not think that Academy and the employees aren't going to be named in the upcoming lawsuit. Their negligence and failure to act has resulted in the death of my wife. Deepest pockets first....
 
Bailey Boat said:
Let's play what if for a moment.... What if Mr. White had been successful in stealing the gun, which was witnessed by several employees who did nothing to stop Mr. White. What if Mr. White hijacked my wife using said stolen gun 2 blocks away and then shot and killed her with said stolen gun. Do you not think that Academy and the employees aren't going to be named in the upcoming lawsuit. Their negligence and failure to act has resulted in the death of my wife. Deepest pockets first....
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What if Academy didn't sell guns? Then they wouldn't have to worry about your scenario.
 
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What if Academy didn't sell guns? Then they wouldn't have to worry about your scenario.
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Then Mr. White couldn't have stolen a gun from Academy and therefore the employees couldn't have witnessed him not do it and wouldn't have gotten fired for touching him and he wouldn't have hijacked my wife and killed her. What's your point??
 
Just typical corporate legal morass. They try to write general policy that fits every situation, but it doesn't. Not surprising, but they need to step up and do the right thing.

Stores to support are getting thin. But, maybe the overall benefit is that it drives business away from corporate entities and to the little guy.
 
Anybody found an email address for Academy?
 
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Stealing a firearm and ammo is a bit different then a cordless drill or sleeping bag.
Would be better to have the firing pins removed from display guns.
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I don't think I'd buy a gun that has been messed with to that degree by what is likely to be a far from qualified retail monkey.
 
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Anybody found an email address for Academy?
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No. I actually tried last night after reading his story elsewhere. Just like when I got thrown outta Dunham’s Sports that time, there was nowhere to complain to unless it was with a particular store. That’s by design
 
I don't see the reason for 'boycotting'. Big difference between store policy on employee behavior and caving to political pressure. Example: Stop selling a lawful item when they are in that type of business to sell those items..

That said, I don't agree with what they did.
 
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This man should hold his head up high that he did the right thing! He most likely saved a life or lives.
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Saved citizens lives, thief would have used the pistol gangsta style and those .40 S&W rounds would be all over the place.
Guess he did not know everybody is using 9mm these days.;)
 
I was thinking maybe we should start with lawyers first, that way the supply of judges, politicians and white-collar criminals will start dwindling.
 
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It's all about money. Big box store doesn't allow employees to touch customers for fear of lawsuit.
Probably even have a policy not to stop shoplifters like some home improvement chains have. They are not allowed to stop shoplifters from leaving, a friend of mine said he watched a guy walk out with a new chainsaw and couldn't do a thing about it.
This guy stopped the guy lifting the gun probably because he knew that anyone who would steal a gun and ammo in public would not be afraid to use it to commit other robberies, or even come back in to the store with that loaded weapon.
I believe Academy's HR department might need to rethink their policy a little bit.
If the families of shooting victims can sue gunshop owners that sell someone the firearm used in the shooting, or even sue the gun manufacturer of the weapon used then what would a jury do to Academy if someone were killed by a firearm that they allowed someone to steal?
I can tell you that most company's HR departments are scared of everything imagined, but don't have much of a clue of something as real as what could have happened if this guy had been allowed to leave with the stolen handgun.
The employee that sopped the thief is a hero if you ask me. But he violated company policy and instead got canned.
Good policy or not, when I had my gunshop and someone I did not know asked to see a handgun I would ask if they had a permit to purchase before I let them handle it.
It may have cost me some sales but at least I didn't hand a firearm to a felon.
 
Academy does actively discourage shoplifting. I watched them do it. The manager was checking me out because I was getting a gun at no charge. He had to leave to assist the store security person. Listened to them on their radio. They followed her on camera and got set to confront her. I didn't see the confrontation, but it appeared that she wasn't leaving based on the conversation. They knew what she stole and where she stashed it.

OTOH, I was surprised to learn that they do not allow carry, in the firearms dept. I had assumed that a retired CMPD officer that worked there could carry, and he informed me otherwise. They do perp walk you to the cashier to complete a purchase.

I bought from Gander a week or so ago. They handle the transaction at the gun counter and let you go.
 
I'm surprised that anyone sells firearms anymore? It must be a real PIA for all parties involved. You got shit like this going on, then the ATF is looking over your shoulder making sure you dot every "I" and cross every "T" on the paperwork. Evidently there must be a tremendous market for guns with mega $$$ involved for these business's to keep dealing with firearms.

I guess Academy screwed up so we need to run them out of the gun business. If we dig around enough I think we can find enough dirt to run a majority of gun dealers out of business. :rolleyes:
 
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Let's play what if for a moment.... What if Mr. White had been successful in stealing the gun, which was witnessed by several employees who did nothing to stop Mr. White. What if Mr. White hijacked my wife using said stolen gun 2 blocks away and then shot and killed her with said stolen gun. Do you not think that Academy and the employees aren't going to be named in the upcoming lawsuit. Their negligence and failure to act has resulted in the death of my wife. Deepest pockets first....
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I’m thinking that if you had been the one to shoot Mr. White that it would make for one helluva confusing news article.
 
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GANDER???? Did you say GANDER??? Don't you recall that us "deplorable types" aren't welcome there with the change of ownership and the "new" stores....
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Yes! Yes I did say Gander! Dicks doesn't want us, but Gander is OK with us. They have a rack full of EVIL BLACK RIFLES, super extra hi-capacity evil magazines, plenty of ammo, I don't recall seeing such a selection of .22 anywhere else. They even had evil black double barrel 12 gauge shotguns. Pink Crickets too. AND, the guy working at the counter actually knew what he was talking about. Like I said they check you out at the counter and let you go in the store. Nobody follows you out. All this leads me to believe that they're ok with us deplorables.
 
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Yes! Yes I did say Gander! Dicks doesn't want us, but Gander is OK with us. They have a rack full of EVIL BLACK RIFLES, super extra hi-capacity evil magazines, plenty of ammo, I don't recall seeing such a selection of .22 anywhere else. They even had evil black double barrel 12 gauge shotguns. Pink Crickets too. AND, the guy working at the counter actually knew what he was talking about. Like I said they check you out at the counter and let you go in the store. Nobody follows you out. All this leads me to believe that they're ok with us deplorables.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cn...what-trump-said-dont-shop-at-my-business.html
 
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https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/25/cam...s-apologizes-for-charlottesville-remarks.html

Mea Culpa?

I've said it before. In the end I'll do whats best for my wallet when it comes to this stuff. The one I truly try to avoid is Dicks and even then if they've got something I need and the price is right, I'll buy it. It hasn't happened yet. I shop and go with the best deal. Keeping track of who to hate this week is tiresome.
 
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TripleO7 said:
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/25/cam...s-apologizes-for-charlottesville-remarks.html

Mea Culpa?

I've said it before. In the end I'll do whats best for my wallet when it comes to this stuff. The one I truly try to avoid is Dicks and even then if they've got something I need and the price is right, I'll buy it. It hasn't happened yet. I shop and go with the best deal. Keeping track of who to hate this week is tiresome.
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I was just letting you know what Bailey was talking about.
 
The stores want to keep there staff out of harms way, you do not know what an individual will do to you
if you confront them, comply, put up a fight, pull a blade or firearm?
Your life is not worth a Li-Ion battery pack or anything else sold in a store.
Some guy in California decided to rob the garden cashier, she called for manager,
the asst. manager goes to the register and gets shot once with a .45 and died quickly,
he would have complied but not given the chance.
He had two kids and was an Iraqi War Veteran. Never caught the shooter.
 
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