The Pricing on the SA 35 is Coming Down

wvsig said:
Well I heard and interesting comment from a guy who is st the NRA convention that when he asked Tisas if they had any BHPs clones they told him no those guns go to SA now. :eek:
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Hmmm…wasn’t the problem with the TISAS guns the extractors? That is why I got rid of mine. Wish I’d kept it and changed it out for an FN. It was a nice gun, otherwise.
 
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cubrock said:
Hmmm…wasn’t the problem with the TISAS guns the extractors? That is why I got rid of mine. Wish I’d kept it and changed it out for an FN. It was a nice gun, otherwise.
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Yup the Tisas BHPs had extractor issues. They also had a somewhat loose barrel fit and non-standard sight cuts. The thing that throws people off is that the SA-35 is a forged frame. The Tisas was cast but Tisas knows how to forge a frame. I believe they do it for 1911s.
 
wvsig said:
It is not about the “weight” it is the balance in the hand for me. An optic would alter pretty much everything I love about the BHP. YMMV
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A 1oz sight destroys the balance and ruins everything about the gun? Sure ok, lol.
 
NKD said:
A 1oz sight destroys the balance and ruins everything about the gun? Sure ok, lol.
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For me it does. It does not point as naturally. It feels too tall and top heavy. If you like it go for it. I never claimed my preferences on the BHP are universal truths.
 
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wvsig said:
For me it does. It does not point as naturally. It feels too tall and top heavy. If you like it go for it. I never claimed my preferences on the BHP are universal truths.
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Cool. I realize it’s just your opinion. That’s all any of our comments are.
In my opinion, doesn’t change a BHP anymore than it changes any other pistol. Doesn’t make them taller and after milling for it, the weight is basically the same and in the same places, so doesn’t change the balance at all.
 
wvsig said:
Lots of speculation about the actual cause but lots of failures to extract. A fair number of guns seem to run for about 200-400 rounds and then they start to fail. Some guns have gone back to SA more than once. This gun has gone in once and the owner is "testing" it. Spoiler alert it fails.



Here are some of the possible causes:

-From what I have seen the extractor profile on the SA-35 is different than the FN extractor. Hook is not as pronounced.
-Some of the problem guns show excessive wear on the hook of the extractor leading people to believe they are not properly heat treated
-Springs seem weak compared to the FN spring or spring from BHSS. People speculate the springs are not to spec or not properly heat treated
-The slide serrations are cut into the slide after the extractor channel and some guns have burrs and material present in the channel. This is binding the extractor similar to what you see if you do not clean the channel after high round counts.

Don Williams of the Action Works stated this on the 1911forum:



Many people are simply buying a FN extractor and spring and when the SA-35 fails they are replacing the parts and moving on. These seems to fix most guns. I have heard of one or 2 where they still did not function but those did not function right out of the box and have the burrs in the channel of the extractor. I would imagine if you removed the burrs they would run with the FN extractor.
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It’s ironic you posted this since I had a gentleman come up to the table at the Gun Show Saturday asking if we any problems with the SA35. He said his ran fine out of the box with Target Ball ammo but the first time he tried SD ammo the extract failed. After a trip back to the factory he encountered the same thing. Took it to a gunsmith who put in used FN parts and fitted everything. No problems so far. After all I’ve heard, a SA35 would have to be real cheap for me to consider. I love to save money as much as the next guy but I done see buying a gun you know going in that parts will probably have to be replaced after a short time. It’s hard to clone anything that’s as reliable as a Hi Power and get The same quality for half the price. The only company that seems to have pulled that off is Tisas with their 1911’s.
 
Etruett said:
It’s ironic you posted this since I had a gentleman come up to the table at the Gun Show Saturday asking if we any problems with the SA35. He said his ran fine out of the box with Target Ball ammo but the first time he tried SD ammo the extract failed. After a trip back to the factory he encountered the same thing. Took it to a gunsmith who put in used FN parts and fitted everything. No problems so far. After all I’ve heard, a SA35 would have to be real cheap for me to consider. I love to save money as much as the next guy but I done see buying a gun you know going in that parts will probably have to be replaced after a short time. It’s hard to clone anything that’s as reliable as a Hi Power and get The same quality for half the price. The only company that seems to have pulled that off is Tisas with their 1911’s.
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I've had old fn hi powers choke on hollow points. I can't imagine people are buying these things as modern defensive pistols. My hi power is from the 60s or 70s
 
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recreationalhandgrenade said:
I've had old fn hi powers choke on hollow points. I can't imagine people are buying these things as modern defensive pistols. My hi power is from the 60s or 70s
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The “hump” is most likely the reason why. Newer production Hi-Powers and the SA-35 don’t seem to have this issue due to the improved feed ramp design.

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lubomir20 said:
The “hump” is most likely the reason why. Newer production Hi-Powers and the SA-35 don’t seem to have this issue due to the improved feed ramp design.

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Some guns with the humped feed ramp still feed JHP just fine. Others as noted will not. The hump was phased out with the MKII but you will still find them in 1990s guns. It is also 100% correctible. A good smith can fix it in a matter of minutes.
 
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