Thoughts on G2C/G3C?
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Solid little handguns and great value for the money.
terrible choice especially for entry level as there is a good chance of getting a lemon out of the box which is going to sour the first introduction to pistols. Spend a little extra and get a S&W Shield 9mm, Glock, Beretta, CZ.
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I can only speak for the G2C, but the one I had ran like a top. I put close to a thousand rounds, mostly steel case, and it ate it up with no issues. I passed it on to @BatteryOaksBilly, and as far as I know, it's still rolling. I've not met anyone that's had a G2 that didn't like it. Just my 2 cents.
The Taurus owners manuals instruct the user to carry with an empty chamber. While I do own a Taurus Tx22, will no longrr support a manufacturer who advises empty chamber carry. Either they think we are idiots or their pistol designs are unsafe. Either way I’ll put my funds elsewhere.
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The CZ P10 is a great choice for a first handgun and right now I think one of the best values out there. For and extra $100 you get way more.
Sub $300 from Family Firearms right now.
I wound up with it and my son has put at least another 500 rounds of mixed loads from 95gr to 147gr fmj and coated lead without the first hiccup And I know damn well he has done no cleaning or lubing.
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Yes, if you consider the instant depreciation to not be a factor. It doesn't bother me but others might pause.
These are striker fired compacts, and have restrike capability. Rather unusual in the grand scheme of things.
This capability allows practical use as a laser trainer. If you haven't tried this, don't knock it.
No idea why the G2C is still offered except for the slightly lower cost; the G3C is a good step up. I guess $30 could make a difference in the market for such guns.
My brother coming out of a divorce could only afford a G2C even though I advised him to at least go to a S&W Shield. We took it to the range (I'm the gun person-he is not). Out of 100 rounds the "dingus" would not depress properly on about 15-20 of them. It would bind the trigger and you had to completely release it and begin the trigger manipulation all over. I went online for him to see about returning it and found on a couple of forums it was a well known issue, and I read several folks complaining about how long Taurus was taking to remedy the guns on warranty repair. I recall some said 3-4 weeks, some said 8 weeks, and one said he was at 12 weeks and waiting.
My brother carried it against my advise but traded UP to a base model Shield M&P and has had no issues, but he's not a big shooter.
My brother carried it against my advise but traded UP to a base model Shield M&P and has had no issues, but he's not a big shooter.
Ruger has explicitly stated to carry with empty chamber particularly in their internal hammer fired designs that lack a firing pin safety plunger system. Ones that come to mind are their 5.7 and security 380/9 pistols. there are probably more Ruger examples of which i am not aware. Which Beretta models are they advising to carry empty chamber? The only beretta pistols I've used are the PX4 and the 92 variants, but don't recall seeing anything in their literature about empty chamber?
With specific reference to Taurus, these warnings are absurd. Are other manufacturers reaching this level of retard?
Ruger's hammer-fired Security 380 manual (page 17) says: "The only absolutely safe pistol is one in which the slide is open, the chamber is empty, and there is no magazine. If you choose to carry any pistol with a cartridge in the chamber, it should be secured in a properly fitting holster that completely covers the trigger guard."
Ruger's striker-fired SR9 manual (page 19) says: "For maximum safety when carrying the pistol with a loaded magazine in place, the chamber should be empty, the slide should be closed, and the safety should be in the “ON” position."
Beretta's PX4 manual (page 9) says: " If you carry a firearm for self-protection, leaving the chamber unloaded can reduce the chance of an unintentional discharge."
It's just lawyer gibberish to try to protect companies against idiots who manage to shoot themselves and then want to blame (and sue) the companies. I'm personally not offended when companies says "unintended discharges are minimized" or "For maximum safety" or "can reduce the chance of an unintended discharge" with respect to not having a round in the chamber. Nevertheless, nobody will force you to own guns made by companies that write such things.
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Cheap little things and it lowers the barrier of entry. Idk. I would rather carry a taurus than a hi-point.
I would recommend looking for a used gen 1 shield, really. But if they want to use that money for bills or ammo to actually learn their gun then there are worse choices I suppose
I would recommend looking for a used gen 1 shield, really. But if they want to use that money for bills or ammo to actually learn their gun then there are worse choices I suppose
^these statements are accurate. An empty chamber will reduce the likelihood of an unintentional discharge. Taurus’s claims are distinctly poor, including alternating modes of carry based on some perceived “threat level” and that firearms discharge when dropped. They also directly state the Taurus firearms should be carried w empty chamber. In other words, OUR pistols should be carried empty chamber.
One can refer to this as lawyer jibberish or develop whatever excuses are found to be acceptable. Ultimately if the manufacturer elects to provide confusing and contradictory guidance it reflects on the manufacturer.
I have seen NEW Shields with standard sights as low as $299 new (in store in SMKW, but not online) and in the low $300s, and I *think* there is still a $50 rebate available on them.
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It seems to be a good gun but there is a lot of Taurus hate so if possible shoot before you buy im not a fan off its trigger though
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You will get a lot of people hating on Taurus. They had horrible quality for a long time, but have worked on it. Are they as nice as other more expensive guns, usually not. But they have a place.
I got a g2c to test the waters and it has never had a failure after several hundred rounds. It’s entry level for sure though. Buy based on your budget and taste.
Mine was a little hard headed when I first got it. But, now it's over a 1000 rounds without a single fail.
The only gun I've ever had to return for warranty was a Beretta. You can get a bad apple in any barrel.
The only gun I've ever had to return for warranty was a Beretta. You can get a bad apple in any barrel.
I've owned 2 g2cs. The 1st one ran great. The second one had a bad hitch in the trigger about half way through the pull. I got it on trade and thought it had a non working trigger at first. After a few tries i pulled longer and it fired. After a lot of research and looking at the gun i found the trigger dingus (safety) to be hitting the trigger as it passed. Luckily I could remove a bit of metal at the leading edge. This fixed it. Smooth as butter now. At any rate i knew taurus would fix it if i couldnt. Definitely worth a look at these. Overall, great guns.
That's what I said. But, My son-in-law bought 9mm hi point a few weeks ago and I got to put a few rounds through it. My surprise it wasn't so bad. Yeah it's on the heavy side but not real bad In a owb holster. I liked the feel and pretty dang accurate. Had no hiccups and ran like a top. Found no reason to hate it.
The g2c is much lighter than a highpoint therefore more easily carried. I believe highpoint handguns are relatively reliable and fairly accurate and have their place. I own a highpoint carbine in 45acp. Never had a misfire. Very accurate. A lot of fun at a low price with a lifetime warranty.
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With the CZ P10C being so cheap right now, I see no reason to buy a budget handgun. The P10 series is a seriously good handgun that I guess just happens to be comically cheap right now.
I have atleast 15k rounds through 2 P10Cs in class and competition environments and I can honestly say I've never had a single malfunction related to the pistol or the magazines.
I have atleast 15k rounds through 2 P10Cs in class and competition environments and I can honestly say I've never had a single malfunction related to the pistol or the magazines.