Biggest issue is the balance of business, insurance, the public and employee safety.
Almost all gun owners are unsafe as hell. Even the best make mistakes in gun safety. It's a fact. Like it or not. If I just hurt your butt, this must stick. Be safer.
As a gun store offering a service that exsposes the business, employees and Customer's to a hazard how do you midagte it?
Signage is insurance speak for libility avoidance. We all know signs do not work in reality but gets you off the hook from a insurance expense perspective.
I think the key to all of this is to lower exposure to the hazard. We can not midigate dumb, but we can control it.
How do you control a hazard?
*Administration
*Engineering
*PPE
*Admin = signage
* Engineering = clearing barrels as needed
*PPE not practical in a store setting.
Side note:
Some of you saying "I will never go" you never were or have been. So please just quit being a turd. Some of you Jump on every ban wagon that's rolls by. It gets old reading the negative B.S. that never held water in the first place.
I think TSA jacked themselves with poor wording and a single bad point of view. I think to midagte risk they need to have a smarter view and techniques to fix the issue.
Man, I haven't read the whole thread. But read many pages.
But I have to call bullshit on this. Best as I can tell, I shot close to 20G rounds last year, probably more. I did this at a combination of probably 7 different ranges. Shot all kinds of matches and shot practice with
many people. I have also brought in many newbs to shoot. I have a huge group of friends who I shoot with all the time. Never felt unsafe with any of them. I trust all of them. Now, I understand this is not what you are always going to get at a gun shop, but this idea that "almost all gun owners are unsafe" is BS.
Maybe you are shooting with the wrong people? Maybe you are focusing on the type of customer that brings that type of thing with the tactical timmy crowd and knee pads and "war gunz" and whatnot? Sucks that your "dumb" customers are "hazards" you need to "control" and "mitigate". Might be why some avoid that type of instruction? It's why I would avoid it.
At any rate, I have been to TSA several times now (while carrying a loaded gun of course). Left without buying anything. The place sucks. Of course, I do wish them the best. No hate here. Just not my type of place. I look at it as a business trying to make money, like Walmart. I don't see it as the little guy trying to do something positive for the gun community. I see it as someone trying to make something positive for their checkbook. Nothing wrong with that! 'Merica!
But the other side of freedom is that we can all voice our opinions of it. Not our job to make sure someone stays in business.
Actually, I take back the part about not buying anything. I did buy lunch there. And, I have to say, the lady that works the food counter in there is super cool, made me really good food, and made a real motherly positive impression on me. So, I very may go back for some meatloaf or something. As long as I don't have to disarm and show credentials to do so.
Conversely, I have never felt this way about , for example, Fuquay Gun and Gold. Never been treated like they needed to "control" me for being a "dumb hazard". Instead, they treat me like an equal whose business they really want. That is probably why they are thriving in business in a difficult time and many guys
aren't. Because customer service. Is it Clay who is the owner? He would
NEVER,
in a million years, come on here and talk
down to potential customers like some always seem to do. He doesn't let his ego interfere with the bottom line. Local gun related business owners could learn a lot from his business model, imo.
Threads like this have blown up about FG&G, too. It is quickly squashed and cleared up by the owner
post haste. Just my opinions, and nothing personal.
