Triggernosis
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.380 ACP defense ammo?
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Ball lol. Hollow point expansion seems to be marginal at best so I'm going for penetration depth and feeding reliability.
expansion issues are due to short barrel lengths we tested the ammo inc 90gr out of a Ruger Security 380 (barrel length is 3.42") and had great expansion with it , the Lehigh performs well due to not needing to expand!
If I wanted a long barrel I'd carry a 9mm, I carry a 380 because it's easy to pocket.
which is why I said the Lehigh performs well due to not needing to expand!
How much more is it than ball? I don't see much benefit in it for what is almost certainly a significant cost uptick.
I can assure you the wound track and penetration from the Lehigh will do much more damage than .380 ball
Lots of data here: https://www.luckygunner.com/labs/self-defense-ammo-ballistic-tests/#380ACP
Myself I use the Hornady critical defense which you can see from the data is just on the edge of passing, but I know runs well in my pistols.
Myself I use the Hornady critical defense which you can see from the data is just on the edge of passing, but I know runs well in my pistols.
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I load those in 100 grains also. Maybe I should just stick with it for defense ammo.
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I'm carrying some Fiocchi loaded XTPs.
I like that the XTP bullet is usually a reliable expander, but doesn't expand much, which means penetration is usually a little more than typical 380 HPs.
I like that the XTP bullet is usually a reliable expander, but doesn't expand much, which means penetration is usually a little more than typical 380 HPs.
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.380 ball ammo in winter
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What was the depth of penetration with the Ammo Inc 90gr?
Underwood 68gr Lehigh Defender +P. The only "self defense" ammo I'll use in 380. LOTS of independent reviews of it on YouTube. They tear through clothes and penetrate like ball but leave a massive wound track. I'd never trust a 380 to self defense except for using that round
AND, it's on sale, 30% off right now.
AND, it's on sale, 30% off right now.
exactly what i do with my lcp when i carry it
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I use to use buffalo bore hard cast in .380 when I carried one
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yep Ball Ammo here too. That's what my LGS suggested, plus I'm only carrying for back up and if I have to go to that something is seriously wrong.
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I thought that I was the only one who used ball for EDC - I'll even sneak in ball ammo on my 45 ACPs. Kind of cool to see others land at the same conclusion.
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The platinum just puts the moly coating on them to make them feed better, not that I've ever had an issue with them feeding. I think, just for the rest of today, 30% off.
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I'm running Winchester ball which is a flat nose round. I've got Lehigh on hand, but I haven't been to the pistol range for months so I can't say if it runs in my LCP. That's important. Make sure it runs in your gun, my results, his results, and random youtube schill results don't mean squat if it doesn't run in your personal gun.
This is what I use in my 380. I have shot 100 rounds of it and am confident it will do the job, if required. Also picked up some 90gr and 68gr in 9mm and it has worked in every gun I’ve tested so far
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Why do alt the type of rounds in the mag?
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For me in my MP 45 I carry HP's in the gun and then my 2 backup mags have reg ball in them
Federal HST 99 grain.
Sorry, I didn't mean alternating between types in a magazine. I have fluted bullets in some mags and ball in others and randomly alternate between which mag may be in a gun.
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Either hydrashok deep or underwood extreme defender/penetrator. There is non saami underwood +p 380 and they do provide the pressures in writing if you ask.
Tools and targets has some extensive ammo tests on 380 in gel.
My concern is alot of ball stuff is im worried I'll get one with a hard primer.