Maybe JIT with a supply chain that is closer to home. Or at least more reliable and politically aligned with the US.
Ammo panic - Is it real?
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Maybe JIT with a supply chain that is closer to home. Or at least more reliable and politically aligned with the US.
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I had a rare opportunity to understand the unintended consequences of JIT manufacturing. In another life, I supplied cut leather components that went onto the steering wheels of some BMWs. During a meeting with the corporate leather buyer, he offered me a behind-the-scenes tour of BMWās largest factory (Dingolfing, NE of Munich). At the very end of the line, I noticed a stack of plastic chair seats (exactly like the photo below except without the metal bases).
Asking about their purpose, the buyer explained that sometimes their JIT supplier of the driverās seat would be late. There was no possibility to move the otherwise finished car off the line other than driving it. On those occasions, they would put that plastic chair seat/back on the floor so the car could be moved out of the building. I donāt remember the numbers but he explained that, if a supplier caused the line to stop, they were fined some unbelievable amount of money PER MINUTE (the number $18,000 comes to mind).
I had a rare opportunity to understand the unintended consequences of JIT manufacturing. In another life, I supplied cut leather components that went onto the steering wheels of some BMWs. During a meeting with the corporate leather buyer, he offered me a behind-the-scenes tour of BMWās largest factory (Dingolfing, NE of Munich). At the very end of the line, I noticed a stack of plastic chair seats (exactly like the photo below except without the metal bases).
Asking about their purpose, the buyer explained that sometimes their JIT supplier of the driverās seat would be late. There was no possibility to move the otherwise finished car off the line other than driving it. On those occasions, they would put that plastic chair seat/back on the floor so the car could be moved out of the building. I donāt remember the numbers but he explained that, if a supplier caused the line to stop, they were fined some unbelievable amount of money PER MINUTE (the number $18,000 comes to mind).
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I guess it is a matter of perspective. To me that is the intend consequence of JIT. It is similar to Walmart distribution centers which give you a time window to make your delivery . You hit it or you don't deliver or pay a fine. Your example sucks for the seat guys but BMW is gaining exponentially by using JIT manufacturing. The opposite would be worse for BMW. Having seats sitting complete with no cars to put them in. IT is my understanding that for BMW every car on the line is paid for. It has been sold to an end user or dealer network before it is put into production. As a corporation they do not build the cars and then push them to the dealer network like other manufacturers. They are JIT from start to finish. One of the ones I own came off the boat 10 days before I picked it up in SC. I bought it from a dealer who plucked it out of another dealers allocation and re-routed it to the Performance center in SC. The dealer I bought it from never saw the car.
Of course there are hiccups in any production and manufacturing system but JIT as been proven to yield the most efficiency creating higher profits while at the same time delivering lower pricing to the consumer. I cannot think of any other method currently being utilized that does a better job. If there is one I would love to hear about it.
I feel your pain brother
I placed a small order of a few random things (ie not 9mm or 556) at Outdoor Limited this morning, and it filled and shipped today.
Perhaps the panic is slowing down? They have ammo, and apparently can ship, but maybe no one wants to pay the extra 100% vs. what it cost a few weeks ago? Or everyone is out of money? Or the .gov is destroying the economy and currency so fast that the USD is worth half of what it was before so this is the new price going forward even when supplies are available? Or the lack of cheap steel case ammo has removed the low price floor?
Or it's late, and I should just go to bed.
Perhaps the panic is slowing down? They have ammo, and apparently can ship, but maybe no one wants to pay the extra 100% vs. what it cost a few weeks ago? Or everyone is out of money? Or the .gov is destroying the economy and currency so fast that the USD is worth half of what it was before so this is the new price going forward even when supplies are available? Or the lack of cheap steel case ammo has removed the low price floor?
Or it's late, and I should just go to bed.
Yes I did! It got to a point when safety was an issue and both my brother and I did some explaining as to avoid self injury. One funny point was a guy who had just put 2 or 3 mags out of a short AR and then immediately picked up the plastic bag he just pulled off it from the thing from the original box and I warned him to let it cool before he put the bag on. He didn't!
I tried not to laugh. I have away 3 empty chamber indicators - I know not everyone uses them but I do.
The first shot from the 45/70 lever gun was humorous though. He put it away after 3 shots without finding paper.
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Oops, screwed up quotes ^^^^^!
Yessir you act like you've done that a time of 2.
Thank you!
Thank you!
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Should Academy upgrade their packing? Second time this has happened to me.
That's sad!
Don't receive ammo from Outdoor Unlimited, Defender of even Midway in that condition.
And it's no lighter from them.
Don't receive ammo from Outdoor Unlimited, Defender of even Midway in that condition.
And it's no lighter from them.
I would imagine that places like OL who normally ship pretty fast are still able to ship what they have in stock pretty quick. Iāve appreciated their āreal timeā stock amounts and have snatched up the last few boxes on some good deals.
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Well you have to cut open those boxes to send in the rebate. They were just trying to help.
I have not seen a good deal on OLs site for 30+ days. They were one of the first to jack up pricing. The 45 ACP I mentioned earlier is the closest I have seen to a normal price.
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looks like it worked as it should. outer box got wet, inner boxes were wrapped with cellophane so they wouldn't fall apart.
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But I photographed the box before opening it.
But I photographed the box before opening it.
You know those poor bastards in that warehouse are just cramming that stuff into the box as fast as they can and trying to be breathe someone else spray....
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What deals have you gotten there. They got crushed. They have Magtech for $289 which is about $100 more than it was 30 days ago. That ammo was selling for $9.99 a box everywhere before. I feel for them. I was buying from them pretty regularly but then everything went up 50-65% overnight. Ammo might be flowing back into him but his pricing is now horrible.
https://www.outdoorlimited.com/hand...-grain-full-metal-jacket-case-of-1000-rounds/
WWB is selling for $329+ shipping that is $129 more than Academy and Bass Pro.
https://www.outdoorlimited.com/bulk...range-pack-usa9w-case-115-gr-fmj-1000-rounds/
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I guess I took this statement to mean recently.... My point is that they went from a solid low priced vendor to one of the most overpriced literally overnight. Whatever not really worried about it. I used to buy from him because he was in NC even if he was a little higher than national vendors but I am disappointed by the level of his price increases. Hopefully they will come back to earth at some point.
I have slightly more faith in people I guess. I donāt know what their deal with ammo suppliers is, or was, so I will go with the assumption that any price increases they put in was to either combat selling out too quickly or to compensate for a higher amount they would have to pay in the future.
This was all discussed as naseum in the āprice gougingā thread.
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