Another Eloquent Backhand from Mike Rowe

11B CIB said:
What do we blame for a spelling error? Learning disability?

Just checking
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Spell-checking only comes with the paid version of Imgflip, things will improve once there's a Federal program that uses tax dollars to insure the grammatical integrity of memes.
 
CZfool68 said:
I've been staying out of the pissing match since it is obviously an emotional issue for you, but that meme is truly ignorant. Large corporations lobby for more regulations in many cases because they have the resources to comply while small and new business may not. This goes for financial regulations and ADA issues. Who has more lawyers and accountants, a Fortune 100 company or Chadmn? Who can more easily afford a special handicapped or Trannie bathroom at their locations, Walmart or the husband and wife that are trying to open a small retail store? Why do you think these big corporations support laws and regulations that cost them money?

And finally why is chadmn or any other individual burdened with a debt for life on the birth of a handicapped person? While it would be nice if everybody would help less fortunate people what makes it right to coerce people with the threat of gov't force to pay for others' misfortunes? Put more cruelly why should one man or family have to do with less because another human was born?

And not to pick on handicapped people per se, these truths go for pretty much all recipients of social welfare programs. And recipients of means-tested progams for that matter.
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To your first point, a person who goes in to business for themselves makes that decision, hopefully understanding that government regulations are part and parcel of running their business, the majority of people with genuine handicaps don’t choose them. To your second point, if as a society we can’t take care of each other in our society, then what is the purpose of the society to begin with?
 
NoNameHaveI said:
To your first point, a person who goes in to business for themselves makes that decision, hopefully understanding that government regulations are part and parcel of running their business, the majority of people with genuine handicaps don’t choose them. To your second point, if as a society we can’t take care of each other in our society, then what is the purpose of the society to begin with?
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The idea that the government is infallible in its regulations aside, you’re confusing the term society with the mythical term social contract.

A society is a social construct not contract. It provides a system within which people can interact with one another. It protects the players from each other by providing a set of laws.

A Society ensures that everyone at the table has an equal shot at playing as well as they can with the cards they were dealt. A social contract tries to retroactively ensure everyone is playing with the same hand.

When I broke my leg a couple years ago I was completely out of commission and it snowed. A couple of friends came by and shoveled my driveway. That is what society is for. A social contract takes money from everyone and pays someone to only shovel the driveways of the people who can’t do it themselves.

With a society you actually have to graciously accept the help that has graciously been offered and thank the people that helped you. With a social contract you receive what was taken from others by force and are under no obligation to thank anyone.
 
Chdamn said:
With a social contract you receive what was taken from others by force and are under no obligation to thank anyone.
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Not just that, you expect what was taken from others and are angry when you don’t get “enough.”
 
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NoNameHaveI said:
To your first point, a person who goes in to business for themselves makes that decision, hopefully understanding that government regulations are part and parcel of running their business, the majority of people with genuine handicaps don’t choose them. To your second point, if as a society we can’t take care of each other in our society, then what is the purpose of the society to begin with?
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Chadmn out it pretty eloquently, but I'd add that someone may start a business under one set of laws and regulations, succeed, and then have the regulations changed. In business things are no static for long. Sure a business owner should know what the environment is, but when the Excecutive branch can set regulations with no oversight to give certain companies or industries an advantage most business owners have limited options to deal with the changes.

Secondly, it is not society's job to take care of everyone. That's called Utopia and it is NEVER going to happen. And any help people receive that has beeen coerced or taken from others is immoral and wrong. Unfortunately we're all forced to carry some burden in life, and some are forced to carry more than others. Life is an unequal distribution of misery and happiness. Just enjoy the ride.
 
No worries guys had a great convo with the wife last night.
Wife: why are you staring at your phone looking angry?
Me: a bunch of guys on the forum think that handicapped people don’t deserve protections under the law, and are complaining about the ADA.
Wife:....? Why do you care?
Me: they are wrong.
Wife: what are they going to do about it?
Me: I don’t suppose there is anything they can do about it.
Wife: so it’s a virtual circle jerk about the big bad government keeping them down that will accomplish absolutely nothing, again why do you care?
Me: I guess I don’t :D
 
NoNameHaveI said:
No worries guys had a great convo with the wife last night.
Wife: why are you staring at your phone looking angry?
Me: a bunch of guys on the forum think that handicapped people don’t deserve protections under the law, and are complaining about the ADA.
Wife:....? Why do you care?
Me: they are wrong.
Wife: what are they going to do about it?
Me: I don’t suppose there is anything they can do about it.
Wife: so it’s a virtual circle jerk about the big bad government keeping them down that will accomplish absolutely nothing, again why do you care?
Me: I guess I don’t :D
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Sounds like a good wife! Congrats.
 
CZfool68 said:
Chadmn out it pretty eloquently, but I'd add that someone may start a business under one set of laws and regulations, succeed, and then have the regulations changed. In business things are no static for long. Sure a business owner should know what the environment is, but when the Excecutive branch can set regulations with no oversight to give certain companies or industries an advantage most business owners have limited options to deal with the changes.

Secondly, it is not society's job to take care of everyone. That's called Utopia and it is NEVER going to happen. And any help people receive that has beeen coerced or taken from others is immoral and wrong. Unfortunately we're all forced to carry some burden in life, and some are forced to carry more than others. Life is an unequal distribution of misery and happiness. Just enjoy the ride.
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There used to be advantages and disadvantages to being either a small or large company. The advantages of a large company were mainly increased buying power and financial influence. The advantages of a small company were mainly decreased overhead and quicker market reaction. These different constructs left alone were symbiotic in our country's economy. Neither one outperformed the other and the amount of combined revenue earned by large corporations was very close to equal to the combined revenues of all small businesses. Now small business makes up about a 10th of that revenue.

One might assume, if you had no other information, that the advantages of being a large corporations simply overtook small business, but that would be to completely ignore the governments role in this.

In case anyone hasn't noticed this shift started in the 80's, really took off in the 90's and hasn't changed. Part of the reason for this shift is increased regulation under the guise of fair business practices but what it has done is shortened the overhead gap between small and large businesses. Considering most, if not all, of these regulations were penned by the lobbyists of large corporations do we think it's a coincidence?

But then they went a step further. Even if you can get on board with everyone having to pay huge amounts of money to adhere to governments arbitrary regulations, even the ones that have no real effect on your business. Even if you can say, with a straight face that "Everyone is on the same level playing field with these regulations", at least you could also say that we are all treated equally in the eyes of the law. We all have the same tax burdens as corporate entities.

But then you would be wrong. Starting in the 90's and really taking off in the ought years, local and state governments have deferred huge tax burdens for large corporations to attract them to come to their communities. So now the playing field, which wasn't really level with increased regulations, has really been flipped upside down with tax deferment.

And all of this is under the same misguided principal of the social contract. It is good for the state or community to have these businesses because of this social contract so they get treated unequally and unfairly to the detriment of small businesses.
 
Chdamn said:
Freaking amazing. How have I not heard of him before.

Not to make this political but if this was any other sport he would be a media darling. He’s good looking, well spoken and a fighter.
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Met him once and talked to him for a bit. He's a very nice guy.

Rumor has it he got with Lena Miculek. Lucky bastard.
 
In case your man-crush isn't fully inflamed:


All the way down to his mention of the 2A--which I heard him making a parallel between people wanting to squawk about people using tools (guns) to commit crimes and people using a tool (Facebook) to run their mouth...dude's got ice water running through those veins.
 
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