Another school shooting. Florida High School.

JohnFreeman said:
Maybe we should practice capital punishment quickly on the guilty, and give them no press coverage.
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That's part of what I was wondering. Why in the world are they showing all the pics of the shooter? Cuffed on the ground, put in the car, taken to jail, etc. Just don't give them an ounce of publicity...
 
Darkhorse said:
What we need to do is put God and prayer back into schools. It's funny how when I was a kid growing up we prayed every morning and said the pledge allegiance but I cannot remember one shooting maybe there was but I don't remember.
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I don't think we should put God in schools. We should privatize the whole system so that schools can teach religious values and parents can decide whether they want their kids in those schools. Besides, what religion would we put in public schools? All of them? There would not be enough time for anything else. I would rsther my kids go to a school with zero politics or religion. They can get those things at home or when they go off to college.

I must be getting old. Just teach them their reading, writing and arithmetic. Maybe a little science too.
 
This hyper emotional immediate attack the #2A/AR15/NRA/gun owner after a shooting reaction by leftists, politicians, and MSM types is an overall good thing in my opinion.
 
CZfool68 said:
I don't think we should put God in schools. We should privatize the whole system so that schools can teach religious values and parents can decide whether they want their kids in those schools. Besides, what religion would we put in public schools? All of them? There would not be enough time for anything else. I would rsther my kids go to a school with zero politics or religion. They can get those things at home or when they go off to college.

I must be getting old. Just teach them their reading, writing and arithmetic. Maybe a little science too.
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This is supposed to be a free country. We have many religions and cultures. I wouldn’t want anyone forcing a religion on my kids when I’m not around. Same goes for politics.
 
CZfool68 said:
I don't think we should put God in schools. We should privatize the whole system so that schools can teach religious values and parents can decide whether they want their kids in those schools. Besides, what religion would we put in public schools? All of them? There would not be enough time for anything else. I would rsther my kids go to a school with zero politics or religion. They can get those things at home or when they go off to college.

I must be getting old. Just teach them their reading, writing and arithmetic. Maybe a little science too.
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No religion or politics in schools, 100% agree. Stick to education and we will handle the religion and ethical stuff at home.
 
Sad events for sure, people "saw it coming" but no one did anything. There will be more laws called for, maybe some passed, and then in about 2 or 3 months we'll have a repeat performance. There will be new actors but the same old script, "we knew he had troubles". Rinse, repeat, the world goes on......

I know I shouldn't have to say this to the crowd on CFF, but lock up your guns when not in use...... Do we know where he supposedly got the gun??
 
BlackGun said:
No religion or politics in schools, 100% agree. Stick to education and we will handle the religion and ethical stuff at home.
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This is the problem with this country now. Kids are not being taught the right way and the only way.
It starts in the home.
 
Bailey Boat said:
Sad events for sure, people "saw it coming" but no one did anything. There will be more laws called for, maybe some passed, and then in about 2 or 3 months we'll have a repeat performance. There will be new actors but the same old script, "we knew he had troubles". Rinse, repeat, the world goes on......

I know I shouldn't have to say this to the crowd on CFF, but lock up your guns when not in use...... Do we know where he supposedly got the gun??
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He is 19. I read they 'thought' he bought the rifle legally. Of course the story will change 100 times over the next week.
 
As more information is released we see a history of a troubled child with absent parents. Father died early in his life and mother gone as well. Most of these school shootings are done by white 14-20 year olds with family issues. Some have been on medication as well.

Really it’s not hard to understand the criminal behavior increase since the late seventies. Divorce, single parenthood, and absent parents are changing the landscape of criminal activity.
 
CZfool68 said:
I don't think we should put God in schools. We should privatize the whole system so that schools can teach religious values and parents can decide whether they want their kids in those schools. Besides, what religion would we put in public schools? All of them? There would not be enough time for anything else. I would rsther my kids go to a school with zero politics or religion. They can get those things at home or when they go off to college.

I must be getting old. Just teach them their reading, writing and arithmetic. Maybe a little science too.
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This is why this country has gone to hell in a hand basket. No one is teaching about God and what is right. Hellywood is teaching everything but what is right and about everything that is wrong.
 
Darkhorse said:
This is why this country has gone to hell in a hand basket. No one is teaching about God and what is right. Hellywood is teaching everything but what is right and about everything that is wrong.
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Yes, we have a cultural problem, but since the Christians can't all agree on how to teach the Bible and God how would you propose to teach religion in a public school with Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Sihks, Muslims, etc? What about aetheists? Or are we going to just go all Iran and force one National Religion on everyone?
 
I would say to you all christians are not real christians. There is only one right way. It's up to you to find that way.
 
Its totally based on Biblical teachings. I don't think you would be likely to agree with anything it says therefore I will not get into a discussion with you. If we don't have anything to stand on it would be my word against yours and would be a total waste of time.


But think about it when this country had a few morals to it things were a lot better off.
I'm not talking about forcing any religion down anyone's threat I'm talking about teaching kids the right way for example do unto others as you would have them do unto you but as I said th TV shows them sex,drugs violence what are we to expect.
 
Darkhorse said:
@noway2

When they took God out of school things starting going down hill fast.
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Yes, the two things coincide, but I don't believe it's direct cause and effect. Both are symptomatic of changing culture and society.

As others hsve said, religion and politics should be taught at home. Schools should focus on scholastics.
 
Darkhorse said:
Its totally based on Biblical teachings. I don't think you would be likely to agree with anything it says therefore I will not get into a discussion with you. If we don't have anything to stand on it would be my word against yours and would be a total waste of time.


But think about it when this country had a few morals to it things were a lot better off.
I'm not talking about forcing any religion down anyone's threat I'm talking about teaching kids the right way for example do unto others as you would have them do unto you but as I said th TV shows them sex,drugs violence what are we to expect.
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I'm sure I agree with you on more than you think, we just disagree that what we think should be forced on everybody. And teaching one religion in schools is a practical as rounding up all the private guns in the US. No matter how bad someone wants doesn't make it any more realistic.
 
If psychiatrist believes one if their patients is dangerous enough to do something like this, does that not mean they believe the patient is a danger to themselves or others? Is that not the criteria for involuntary commitment?
So many people knew this young adult was violent and dangerous. Yet none acted to have him committed or ensure he did not have access to firearms.
Was the fact that he is Hispanic make them afraid to act for fear of being called racist?


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I never said force anything on anybody and I don't want anyone too either. What I'm saying is we need to get back to where we once was. And what this nation was founded on that is why she has lasted as long as she has.
 
B00ger said:
Was over on Ted Buds comment on Facebook and the liberals are slathering at the mouth over this. No thoughts for the lost just ban guns and kill the NRA.


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Dana Loesch Twitter feed is full if death threats and threats against her children, blaming her and the NRA.
The left is violent. They promote violence at every turn.

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Kid got kicked out of public school. Went to private schools where he was kicked out of two of those. So he was a private school kid. Take a look at the Sandy Hook killer. This is not a public school issue. These killers have mental issues and bad home lives.

We are going to see a change in how school entry is made. Unfortunately we have to change our approach which reflects a loss in family structure over the last forty years.
 
It looks the shooter was an ANTIFA fanboy with communist leanings.....suprise suprise!! Usually these psychopaths off themselves but this guy will have the MSM fawning over his poor poor life for the next 2 years. AND.....the gun misfired......48 times!

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BlackGun said:
Kid got kicked out of public school. Went to private schools where he was kicked out of two of those. So he was a private school kid. Take a look at the Sandy Hook killer. This is not a public school issue. These killers have mental issues and bad home lives.

We are going to see a change in how school entry is made. Unfortunately we have to change our approach which reflects a loss in family structure over the last forty years.
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Yet he didn't go to the private schools that kicked him out, instead he went to the public school. So I would say it's still a public school issue. When was the last charter or private school shot up?
 
Easy to fix. The liberals will just have the mental health community start labeling anyone with guns as dangerous and then they can take them away.
 
NC's gun laws do not allow private schools to permit carry on campus. They do allow private schools to set policy regarding handguns in cars, but rifles of any kind are never permitted. I believe that free men, who are operating a private school for their own children on their own property, should be able to set whatever gun policy they want, and the State should stay out of it. I wish there was a sign at the entrance of my son's school that said "Warning: staff are armed and trained. Any threat to these children will be met with deadly force".
 
SPST said:
Easy to fix. The liberals will just have the mental health community start labeling anyone with guns as dangerous and then they can take them away.
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Sat next to a woman on a flight from CA. She actually said that anyone who wants to own a gun is to mentally unstable to be allowed to own a gun. And if allowed to own a gun, nobody should be allowed to own more than one gun.
The irony is that her parents are wealthy refugees from Iran who escaped the "revolution. " Her lack on understanding her own family history was not surprising given she was raised in California.

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Darkhorse said:
I would say to you all christians are not real christians. There is only one right way. It's up to you to find that way.
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CZfool68 said:
I'm sure I agree with you on more than you think, we just disagree that what we think should be forced on everybody. And teaching one religion in schools is a practical as rounding up all the private guns in the US. No matter how bad someone wants doesn't make it any more realistic.
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As a Christian and a libertarian,how about a compromise? Czfool is right, that forcing religion into schools is a can of worms(though to be fair, the separation of church and state argument comes from a letter Thomas Jefferson wrote to a church saying the government wouldn't get involved in churches, not the other way around), however, judeo-christian morality(absolute truth, higher moral law, tolerance for others and moderation and hard work) are sorely lacking in schools and should be brought back.

Fair?
 
pinkbunny said:
As a Christian and a libertarian,how about a compromise? Czfool is right, that forcing religion into schools is a can of worms(though to be fair, the separation of church and state argument comes from a letter Thomas Jefferson wrote to a church saying the government wouldn't get involved in churches, not the other way around), however, judeo-christian morality(absolute truth, higher moral law, tolerance for others and moderation and hard work) are sorely lacking in schools and should be brought back.

Fair?
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Those values cannot be brought back to the public schools because most of the public school employees do not believe in them. It would be like Obama teaching Austrian Economics. Privatize the school system. Let parents put their kids in the schools of their choice.
 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...hington-state-school-shooting-plot/340101002/

The day before the Florida shooting... this is how it's done. Why doesn't this happen 9 times out of 10? This woman is a hero.

After every attack there is always a plurality of people who "knew this guy was gonna do something like this one day" then later credible threats and other proof are uncovered. Why even bother blaming the gun when these things make the solution so obvious?
 
fishgutzy said:
Sat next to a woman on a flight from CA. She actually said that anyone who wants to own a gun is to mentally unstable to be allowed to own a gun. And if allowed to own a gun, nobody should be allowed to own more than one gun.
The irony is that her parents are wealthy refugees from Iran who escaped the "revolution. " Her lack on understanding her own family history was not surprising given she was raised in California.
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I would've mentioned that anyone coming from a place where they kill homosexuals and other "deviants", beat their burka-enshrouded women for burning supper, and refuse to let women drive should appreciate a county where women can not only defend themselves against attack, but even serve in the armed forces. But of course, she isn't Iranian, she California which means she has brain damage.
 
pinkbunny said:
As a Christian and a libertarian,how about a compromise? Czfool is right, that forcing religion into schools is a can of worms(though to be fair, the separation of church and state argument comes from a letter Thomas Jefferson wrote to a church saying the government wouldn't get involved in churches, not the other way around), however, judeo-christian morality(absolute truth, higher moral law, tolerance for others and moderation and hard work) are sorely lacking in schools and should be brought back.

Fair?
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Please show me "Anybody" where I said force religion I will certainly correct the post.

Thank you
 
Ikarus1 said:
I would've mentioned that anyone coming from a place where they kill homosexuals and other "deviants", beat their burka-enshrouded women for burning supper, and refuse to let women drive should
appreciate a county where women can not only defend themselves against attack, but even serve in the armed forces. But of course, she isn't Iranian, she California which means she has brain damage.
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I knew she wad a list cause and didn't want to waste time. I put on my Bose noise canceling headphones and eat he'd movies for the whole flight.
The women sitting next to her had an "emotional support dog" so they wasted timbre talking about me and other supposed Trump supporters. This was a night with a Trump Hillary debate on tv in the airport. So the wackos were pretty lit up.

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