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I knew you'd have a snark attack when you found out you didn't get an invitation.
Antifa at the gun range.
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I knew you'd have a snark attack when you found out you didn't get an invitation.
A coup? Cool. Wonder who is bringing the tanks. Gotta have tanks for a good coup attempt.
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Its ok. I don't either.I never get invited.
So I just started my own group. Only thing is nobody shows up.
An army of one.
For a bunch of people, who are for a bunch of people, they sure dont like people.
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The weird dude with the shemagh, looks out of place.
He's the FBI agent supplying all the weapons and encouragement needed to take this to the next step..
The red flag thing posted by Boston douche really pisses me off.. Literally took my breath away and gave me an adrenaline rush..
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If they told you, it wouldn't be a secret then, would it? Duh.
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Sounds like something I would have said as a joke and was taken way too seriously.
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Don't let that stop you.Pffft...Once again, situation resolved ! So I needn't say anything.
Smartass comments aside, what are we practicing for?
I get it that these guys are working up to domestic terrorist status and after their first attack people will be wary of going to a Trump rally, but what exactly are we supposed to do? The media will be calling for gun control, blaming the NRA, demanding something or another but it's not then like some CFF group is going to go start tracking these guys down.
If they go on to hit soft targets elsewhere, we'll just be doing our normal defensive stuff if we're there same as we would do with any bad guy.
I get it that these guys are working up to domestic terrorist status and after their first attack people will be wary of going to a Trump rally, but what exactly are we supposed to do? The media will be calling for gun control, blaming the NRA, demanding something or another but it's not then like some CFF group is going to go start tracking these guys down.
If they go on to hit soft targets elsewhere, we'll just be doing our normal defensive stuff if we're there same as we would do with any bad guy.
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Don't count us fattys out. We may not run and gun but we sure can provide overwatch from a fixed position.
The problem is these guys organize and train and no one bats an eye. If we did it we'd be labeled domestic terrorist, the IRS would audit everything, DSS would try to find any excuse to take our kids and anytime we bought a box of ammunition we'd be accused of stockpiling.
We shouldn't organize and train to go hold counter protest across from these guys but the times of saying "I've got all I need to protect me and mine" won't do much good when 50 of these guys are marching down your street. It only makes sense to have some sort of network you can call on. Together we have them outnumbered and outgunned, individually we will die in a pile of spent brass holding our loved ones.
I am a larger fellow myself so I feel your pain. That said I have reduced myself from fat ass to husky boy. I agree with what you say but I do think getting fit if possible is a greatly overlooked part of folks training/preps.
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No doubt, I'm working on bringing it in myself. Until then I'll drive the truck.
I will say a few of those rifles are nice/sensible setups. The scariest thing IMHO is the lack of mall ninja shit hanging off of them. I still wonder if that dude with the can has his paperwork in order and really want to slap the smug look off the dick in the avaiators.
Think of it as a mutual assistance network. Like-minded folks who know each other, have worked together enough and are willing to help each other in an emergency situation, whether natural or man-made.
I am called the "Warlord" in my hood brother......if that tells you something.
Let 'em go shooting. More power to them.
Let 'em make videos of them shooting. More power to them.
Let 'em make videos of them shooting and making all kinds of violent threats about why and to whom they're offering these threats. More power to them.
Let 'em do all that...and then post their videos and violent threats across the internet, on youtube, personal blogs, whatever. More power to them.
Then let them actually COMMIT an act of violence and see how well it goes over in the courts when all these videos come out.
Yeah...more power to them.
Let 'em make videos of them shooting. More power to them.
Let 'em make videos of them shooting and making all kinds of violent threats about why and to whom they're offering these threats. More power to them.
Let 'em do all that...and then post their videos and violent threats across the internet, on youtube, personal blogs, whatever. More power to them.
Then let them actually COMMIT an act of violence and see how well it goes over in the courts when all these videos come out.
Yeah...more power to them.
RetiredUSNChief has the right idea - show the world who the real fascists are by their speech and actions.
I'd also like to know what they plan to do with the ones they are claiming to protect turn against them. You are not going to find many Muslims sticking up for the LGBT crowd.
I'd also like to know what they plan to do with the ones they are claiming to protect turn against them. You are not going to find many Muslims sticking up for the LGBT crowd.
WTF?! I always thought that whole NAMBLA crap was a satire, a Simpsons sketch or something like that. That shit is real? And tolerated? We sure let some sick, delusional POSs run free.
As for the whole ANTIFA thing. They are training (which should be very alarming for everyone) and trying to provoke violence against them so they can have a "righteous retaliation". That flag is a great example of taunting/trolling the people they hope will be the first to start shooting.
I am thinking these guys are the ones who played XBox shoot 'me games and now have been stirred to what they think is action. Their numbers will be a very small percentage but their thoughts of what they can do are over inflated. These new SJWs think give me a gun and I can play soldier. Most truly do not comprehend what a gun fight entails. I could see these idiots firing into a crowd with little regard. On the other end of it ... if ever fired on I wonder just how they would react. The sight of the person to the left or right going down from incoming fire would likely send them running leaving a trail of biological matter. In Call of Duty they know they can start a new game but when the stuff turns real how many of them have the mindset to actually deal with it?
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They've already committed acts of violence. Multiple times, maybe not with with firearms yet but they've already showed the world their intentions. The media doesn't care as long as the victims are conservatives. How many people have to get hit in the head with bricks and elderly people dragged from their cars for this behavior to get condemned by the media and liberal politicians?
Doesnt look like they learned much from the British what with wearing those red bandanas. Dumbass even put a target on his backpack. Side thought I wonder what would happen to them if they walked through Crip neighborhood wearing colors?
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Isn't going to happen. Marxists don't eat there own. It is more like a cult or religion. Whereas the conglomeration of non-Marxists think politics is a necessary evil and would rather be eating, drinking or screwing than going to some dumb ass protest.
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I cannot say I agree. Marxists will do whatever is necessary to further their cause. They're socialists with a bloodthirst. They'll need a charismatic rabbelrauser but it will happen. The Weather Underground 2.0
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Sure as heck not trying to predict the future but I don't hear the war drums beating that some do. Sounds like a build up for civil unrest. After personal, family, and loved ones safety, my next concern would be are such events used to usher in martial law to protect the interest of TPTB as the economy (continues to) crashes? Perhaps my tinfoil is too tight and it'll be of the generic verity and we move on to the next. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_incidents_of_civil_unrest_in_the_United_States
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I meant that the press isn't going to turn on them. The press will cover for them or simply not report on the things they do. Or as they have already done pin the blame for Antifa's actions on others.
That is my worst fear. Well, other than not knowing why I wasn't invited.
WTF?! I always thought that whole NAMBLA crap was a satire, a Simpsons sketch or something like that. That shit is real? And tolerated? We sure let some sick, delusional POSs run free.
Not trying to derail the thread - Yes to the first question and no to the second. My understanding of it is that LE would LOVE to drop the hammer on them; the pedos have some incredibly tight security on the membership list and it's borderline secret society.
I'm pretty well a live and let live type, but that's one group that I'd have no problem sending to prison based purely on membership (with no need to prove any further crime). IMO support of that type of activity should be a prima facie felony on its own.
What should we be training for? IMO, for two things:
1) for the threat at protests to evolve and escalate. Most of us practice avoidance, but the stakes for getting caught off guard just got elevated, and further - not only the odds of a violent/lethal force encounter just went up, but the mean/median number of aggressors went up as well. It's not the broadest part of the threat spectrum, but it's not one to be ignored
2) be ready for these clowns to start assuming the mantle of government - a la Taliban, ISIL, FARC, etc - , referring to themselves as a legitimate enforcement body and using force to do so. It'll take them quite a well to develop the capability, but they're heading that direction and are assembling to means to do so. Watch for it to start in more Antifa-friendly areas (read: urban California) and get full acceptance there before starting it in, say, El Paso where they'll get their shit pushed in. I have no idea if they'll be successful in this endeavor, but I'd be really surprised if they don't try it.
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"Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with minimal food or water, in austere conditions, training day and night. The only thing clean on him is his weapon and he made his web gear. He doesn't worry about what workout to do - his ruck weighs what it weighs, his runs end when the enemy stops chasing him. This True Believer is not concerned about 'how hard it is;' he knows either he wins or dies. He doesn't go home at 17:00, he is home.
He knows only The Cause."
He knows only The Cause."
I'm reminded of the group that took over the National Park building. I listened to their live feed. They are lucky that one loud mouthed kid didn't get them all killed. What happened after that is what happens to most everyone who decides to take the law into their own hands. If you were to mix those attitudes with any urban group, in any city in the east or far west, there's going to be one of the worst 15 minute fire fights in history. What we've been seeing is mostly staged and supported by the left. In the real world gun haters have guns too. But not one of them, right or left, will be a good match for a swat team, which will be on the scene putting an end to it with extreme prejudice. They shoot people who have guns and are not them. They won't give a tinkers damn what your politics are.
One other thing I forgot to add to Point 2 - wait for them to use Hollywood to make their presence normalized as a means for spreading it nationwide. They've been doing this with gun control for years - specifically, trying to project a world where registration and permitting are the standard and anything else is illegal. It'll be more of an uphill battle to get this idea implanted in the writers/creators of media, but they will try it and will probably succeed - the extent remains unknown.
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