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Who's willing to stand up for the 2nd amendment for all?


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You all realize this OP has been on numerous times today and still isn’t responding?

Maybe he’s content to light the spark and watch everyone else play his game. He’s definitely a felon. He gave too much info and the internet is infinite.
I've been popping in and out while I was at work. I'd love to answer everyone's question, and respond accordingly, but honestly, when things get going in this forum...they move quick. You guys are very interesting... differing points of views. Just to be clear...this is my thread, I started it. Why would it be odd to check up on it? Here's another thing I can't seem to wrap my mind around. Why do you hate me? I asked you an honest question. Have I done something to you personally? If so...where do we go from here? The ball is in your court.
 
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The black powder route is still not classified as a firearm?

When Ive heard of felons in the past and guns, they have gone the air rifle route

Old boss def was felon and def had black powder guns. He hunted with them. said he had to get a lawyer to make it work. Something about non violent who have not had any other infraction for a certain number of years
 
The black powder route is still not classified as a firearm?

When Ive heard of felons in the past and guns, they have gone the air rifle route

a fully automatic CO2 BB gun with a huge hopper would be a hell of a deterrent.
They actually have some super high pressure guns.
 
The black powder route is still not classified as a firearm?

When Ive heard of felons in the past and guns, they have gone the air rifle route

Black powder/muzzleloading guns are not "firearms" under federal law. Federal definition requires a metallic cartridge. That's why you can order one from an online dealer and have it shipped directly to your house (if your state law allows, NC does...).

Therefore, absent State law to the contrary, felons can own BP guns.

There was a time in NC where under state law you had to have a pistol purchase permit to buy a crossbow. The reason for that law was a felon bought a crossbow to kill his former significant other.... It was the knee jerk response to one act.....

That law has since been repealed.
 
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Black powder/muzzleloading guns are not "firearms" under federal law. Federal definition requires a metallic cargridge. That's why you can order one from an online dealer and have it shipped directly to your house (if your state law allows, NC does...).

Therefore, absent State law to the contrary, felons can own BP guns.

There was a time in NC where under state law you had to have a pistol purchase permit to buy a crossbow. The reason for that law was a felon bought a crossbow to kill his former significant other.... It was the knee jerk response to one act.....

That law has since been repealed.
You can even have a suppressed BP gun shipped right to your house. Legal in all 50 states, even the 8 where silencers aren’t allowed. :D

See Maxim 50 for an example.

(Probably some exceptions thrown in there, but I don’t know all of them)
 
I don’t know you and I don’t have a desire to know you. I don’t even know you to hate you.
I think you’ve shared too much about your past but that’s your decision.
I also think you’ve left out some key details on your most recent events that may explain why it happened but again, your story=your decision.
Fair enough. Whether you believe it or not, this is matter of fact, and real easy for me to remember because I haven't changed my routine since my release. I go to work, I come home, I don't hang out, I don't drink, I do smoke cigarettes, and I'm addicted to energy drinks. Now if that's behavior that could bring about the events of Sunday night...what should I change? I've opened myself up to everyone on this forum because I don't have any real friends...I thought I did, but I found out the hard way. Those old friends, old influences I had to put them out of my life. I enjoy freedom, more than slavery. I'm here exposing myself because I hope to find genuine, real people, to get to know. When I think of people who aren't in trouble, and stay out of trouble...I think about those who still have all their rights intact, gun owners, and law enforcement. The hurdles I have to jump over to "redeem" myself are tremendous. I was straight with my wife from the very beginning, and she accepted me for who I am. I married her, and she's my first and only wife. I'm looking for friends like that. Friends like that, I'd give my life for. It boggles my mind that you say, you have no desire to know me. Yet here you are. Also if I'm not mistaking, I could've sworn I remember reading a comment, from you, something to the effect of...you working in the Concord area, and we should do lunch? I could be mistaking you for someone else though.
 
Black powder/muzzleloading guns are not "firearms" under federal law. Federal definition requires a metallic cargridge. That's why you can order one from an online dealer and have it shipped directly to your house (if your state law allows, NC does...).

Therefore, absent State law to the contrary, felons can own BP guns.

There was a time in NC where under state law you had to have a pistol purchase permit to buy a crossbow. The reason for that law was a felon bought a crossbow to kill his former significant other.... It was the knee jerk response to one act.....

That law has since been repealed.


I did not know this, thanks for the information!
 
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I was thinking more like this, which has a selector switch to go from semi to full auto.
https://www.airgundepot.com/hatsan-blitz-full-auto-pcp-air-rifle.html
AGD-5193_Hatsan-Blitz-Full-Auto.jpg

 
Black powder/muzzleloading guns are not "firearms" under federal law. Federal definition requires a metallic cargridge. That's why you can order one from an online dealer and have it shipped directly to your house (if your state law allows, NC does...).

Therefore, absent State law to the contrary, felons can own BP guns.

There was a time in NC where under state law you had to have a pistol purc
I was thinking more like this, which has a selector switch to go from semi to full auto.
https://www.airgundepot.com/hatsan-blitz-full-auto-pcp-air-rifle.html
AGD-5193_Hatsan-Blitz-Full-Auto.jpg


I like it!!! 730 fps not to bad. I can have that. It's got a pretty heavy trigger pull, but hey, better than nothing. That has got to be the first airgun that impressed me. That price though!!! They're proud of it.
 
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Expungement is the way to go. It works I know. Do it. Ain't cheap. Is effective. Do it.

Problem is Billy there are charges that you can't get expunged and most of the ones that you can you have to have a good time period showing your change for the good. 2,4,10 years might not be good enough for the judge.
 
Problem is Billy there are charges that you can't get expunged and most of the ones that you can you have to have a good time period showing your change for the good. 2,4,10 years might not be good enough for the judge.
10 years after release from prison, post release, or parole. Even then... you're correct, that may not be good enough. Before 2004 NCs gun laws used to allow reinstatement after 5 years of release, but you guys knew that already. What caused the change is my question? After 5 years, with no priors seems reasonable IMO.
 
Problem is Billy there are charges that you can't get expunged and most of the ones that you can you have to have a good time period showing your change for the good. 2,4,10 years might not be good enough for the judge.
I understand. Less Murder, Rape and ..you get it...it just costs more. A matter of the right Attorney. Seek out J. Noble Dagget;)
 
If it can't be expunged, it may be able to be pardoned and a pardon will restore lost rights.
I've studied that avenue a little bit. I'm probably telling you all wrong, but from what I've read there have been 800 some pardons submitted, and 70 or 80 some actually pardoned. And that's where people had wrongful convictions. They don't just give those away...and it's understandable...I suppose.
 
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I would wager 1 of two things happened:

1. Recidivism proved even after 5 years felons gonna felon.
2. Lefties seeking gun control because thats what they do put it in a bill, and the other side traded that for getting something else taken off.
 
Does anyone here believe the laws being enforced against felons is a violation of ones Constitutional Rights?

A qualified "yes".

First off, I am assuming that I know what you mean when you say "Constitutional Rights", being as there are no such things. There are 'natural' rights acknowledged by the uS Constitution in the sense that the federal government is prohibited from infringing on them. One of those is the right to defense of self and others. That right is as basic as they come. And in most cases, a lawful felony conviction does not in any way preclude the exercise of that right.

That said, if a person is deemed such a danger to himself or others that he is not considered to be stable enough to possess a 'weapon', then he should be isolated from society, period.

Keep in mind that many commonplace items can be used as weapons. Guns reach out further than most, and that is the sole rational reason that they are considered different from claw hammers. But combustibles and improvised explosives are far more dangerous and less discriminating weapons, and you'll never (rarely?) find an arrest for "felon in possession of gasoline".

I know this isn't particularly helpful to you in your situation, but I thought you deserved a more or less direct answer to your underlying question. And for me, I believe that someone who has transgressed against a vaslid law who has paid a suitable price for his transgression should be fully restored into society -- barring instabilities as described above.
 
A qualified "yes".

First off, I am assuming that I know what you mean when you say "Constitutional Rights", being as there are no such things. There are 'natural' rights acknowledged by the uS Constitution in the sense that the federal government is prohibited from infringing on them. One of those is the right to defense of self and others. That right is as basic as they come. And in most cases, a lawful felony conviction does not in any way preclude the exercise of that right.

That said, if a person is deemed such a danger to himself or others that he is not considered to be stable enough to possess a 'weapon', then he should be isolated from society, period.

Keep in mind that many commonplace items can be used as weapons. Guns reach out further than most, and that is the sole rational reason that they are considered different from claw hammers. But combustibles and improvised explosives are far more dangerous and less discriminating weapons, and you'll never (rarely?) find an arrest for "felon in possession of gasoline".

I know this isn't particularly helpful to you in your situation, but I thought you deserved a more or less direct answer to your underlying question. And for me, I believe that someone who has transgressed against a vaslid law who has paid a suitable price for his transgression should be fully restored into society -- barring instabilities as described above.
Absolutely, and yes I do understand the prohibitions We The People place on government's. They are enumerated, and very well defined. Unfortunately, there's a large number of the population who have forgotten our founding principals.
I'm often reminded of a story...
Two wolves and a sheep, setting at a dinner table, deciding on what's for supper. That's democracy, and this is supposed to be a Constitutional Republic!
 
I've studied that avenue a little bit. I'm probably telling you all wrong, but from what I've read there have been 800 some pardons submitted, and 70 or 80 some actually pardoned. And that's where people had wrongful convictions. They don't just give those away...and it's understandable...I suppose.

Were you convicted in NC?
 
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Ok, I know less about NC laws so not much help there.

I don't see the laws changing anytime soon. It sounds like your options are to either figure out a pardon or expungement. I'd put my energy into that.

They might be expensive or hard to obtain but what else can you do?
 
Ok, I know less about NC laws so not much help there.

I don't see the laws changing anytime soon. It sounds like your options are to either figure out a pardon or expungement. I'd put my energy into that.

They might be expensive or hard to obtain but what else can you do?
Given my current situation... it's best I focus my money on moving. So far, the best hope we have for a place is SC. Then I'm back to square one. I'm mostly familiar with NC gun laws and federal. My only other option as far as restoration, is possibly an "as applies challenge". Something similar to Britt vs NC. It's all a mess and very costly, no matter which way you slice it. Ultimately I played a stupid game and won a very stupid prize. Most of the guys in this forum have been real awesome, and offered up some excellent advice, and information. I have a whole lot of homework to do as well, just to get prepared for such a challenge. I know, and feel very strongly that the prohibitions against peaceful people are dangerous. Especially givin my current situation.
 
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