Unfortunately, they did.
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I thought the compromise was not dragging the sorry bastards out of their building and making them answer for treason.
I think the next rally ought to be around Wayne's mansion.
I think the next rally ought to be around Wayne's mansion.
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I'm guessing that you saw this picture. Make sure that you show it to your wife.
@geneinnc Im referencing the rhetoric that comes up every election cycle when folks on here are all "This election is too important, just pull the R lever this one more time so we can get stuff fixed"
This is where folks will start persuading to not vote with your mind, but vote Republic and not 'throw away your vote'
This is where folks will start persuading to not vote with your mind, but vote Republic and not 'throw away your vote'
The writer is saying that some of us will vote for a Republican even though they have disappointed us many times. It usually comes after someone points out that giving the D's the majority would be a disaster (as we are seeing in Virginia). The writer lives in an alternate reality where not voting or voting for the fanatical gun-haters somehow advances gun rights. Exactly how this will happen is never explained.
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I’ve been seeing more people abandoning the moniker “law abiding” and instead adopting “peaceful” because of how bastardized law has become and divergent from right and wrong.
Keep on 'holding your nose and pulling that lever"
I vote not by party but by man (or woman) and how closely their views align with mine.
I refuse to mindlessly vote straight ticket out of fear
Having in-laws in this state, and unfortunately hearing their side (left) of this; I have come to the conclusion that this is part of their payback for the last presidential election. They're so delusional that it is no longer funny.
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They endorsed Thom Tillis, I'd say they aren't that great of a litmus test for freedom.
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Their representatives are as clueless as their leader
I never heard a word from Trump on this issue. Seems he is focused on his campaign and tweeting about the impeachment. That worries me. And the leadership of the Republicans have said nothing. All this is happening right before their eyes. It’s obvious Republicans have abandoned the fight. In my opinion the reason so many Republicans have said nothing is because NRA money has shifted away from their campaigns.
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I think I will go with "currently peaceful".
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Not trying to instigate anything, this is an honest question.
Do you think those things haven’t already been done? Of course we can always say more could have gotten involved but have those things been truly beneficial?
If you look at VA, the last election is rife with corruption. Accusations of gerrymandering to benefit the left, voter fraud(again by the left) and Bloomberg dumping tons of money into the campaigns of his candidates. It doesn’t present itself as a fair election.
Now that they are in office they immediately change the laws surrounding investigation of elections to make it harder to unseat them. To me that looks like they stole the election, they know they stole it and now they’re going to do everything they can to protect themselves.
Now, I don’t want a fight, if you want a fight I think your an idiot, but when facing an election process as loosely outlined I struggle to see the next election as an opportunity for success.
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President Trump also twitted this yesterday
"I will NEVER allow our great Second Amendment to go unprotected, not even a little bit!"
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I'll admit I was relieved that no major shenanigans occurred over the event. On the contrary, there are pictures of happy people peacefully bearing arms, smiling, and fellowshipping with fellows of all races.
The benefit, in my opinion, is that for the weeks leading up to this event the left was screeching that it was going to be filled with right wing racists with itchy trigger fingers just frothing at the mouth to kill and main. The governor of the state declared an emergency because the threat of violence was so imminent. It was going to be blood in the street! BLOOD I TELL YOU!...and then...a big ol'fat nothing burger. Just a peaceful event filled with patriotic Americans of all races and creeds trying to send a message that they will be heard. They even cleaned up after themselves, and the only destruction I saw was where the cops broke down a guillotine that was brought.
So, going forward, when the left attempts to throw the fear factor in peoples faces, it can be met with these pictures and proof of peace. Photographic and historic evidence that 2A supporters are more thoughtful of the environment than even the climate change looneys that trash venues with discarded signs and refuse.
The "battleground" is those individuals in the middle, those who haven't really taken a position on the 2nd. Those who are like "Meh, guns, whatever..." and don't pay much attention. They are the ones that sway elections. Hard right wing 2A supporters will vote their way, extreme left wing anti-gunners will vote theirs. Its those neutral in the middle that have to be swayed. And when you can show those "neutral" voters that "Hey, look...we really aren't a massive violent group that needs to be disarmed. We aren't the ones lying to you about how we behave. So leave us alone."
The benefit, in my opinion, is that for the weeks leading up to this event the left was screeching that it was going to be filled with right wing racists with itchy trigger fingers just frothing at the mouth to kill and main. The governor of the state declared an emergency because the threat of violence was so imminent. It was going to be blood in the street! BLOOD I TELL YOU!...and then...a big ol'fat nothing burger. Just a peaceful event filled with patriotic Americans of all races and creeds trying to send a message that they will be heard. They even cleaned up after themselves, and the only destruction I saw was where the cops broke down a guillotine that was brought.
So, going forward, when the left attempts to throw the fear factor in peoples faces, it can be met with these pictures and proof of peace. Photographic and historic evidence that 2A supporters are more thoughtful of the environment than even the climate change looneys that trash venues with discarded signs and refuse.
The "battleground" is those individuals in the middle, those who haven't really taken a position on the 2nd. Those who are like "Meh, guns, whatever..." and don't pay much attention. They are the ones that sway elections. Hard right wing 2A supporters will vote their way, extreme left wing anti-gunners will vote theirs. Its those neutral in the middle that have to be swayed. And when you can show those "neutral" voters that "Hey, look...we really aren't a massive violent group that needs to be disarmed. We aren't the ones lying to you about how we behave. So leave us alone."
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I have mixed feelings about it. We rightfully lambasted Obama when he got involved in state and local issues. I wish Trump had said a little more - maybe encouraging the people of Virginia to stand for their rights, but I’m okay that he largely left it alone.
I’m disappointed that so many news outlets, especially NC ones, mostly didn’t cover it. I was driving in the Triad much of yesterday and had to hear about Syngenta’s sweetheart local corporate welfare deal more than a dozen times on the local talk station there, but nothing about VA.
Some info I ran across while researching , hum, sorta related subjects. Bottom line I didn't know about the alleged voting problems. ( I also don't know about Mossad, it does seem apparent that strange things were happening.)
Virginia Election Hacked By Mossad Website Crash & Ballot Fraud, 7 November 2019, chris dorsey
Chris Dorsey
Virginia's Board of Elections' website repeatedly melted down Tuesday evening, just as election returns were supposed to be flowing in from boards of elections across the commonwealth.
As the first results were posted, every table on the site indicated that 100% of precincts were reporting, despite just a smattering of results.Then what looked to users like couple of consecutive reboots of their system knocked users to error pages with no results so far. The error said, "Due to unforeseen circumstances we are unable to process your request at this time. If you have any questions or concerns please contact us."
The Board of Elections also tweeted its apologies for the glitch, but those who responded were brutal, with quips, digs and even a winking photo of Vladimir Putin.
By 8:30 p.m., the site seemed to be back up, but numbers were not updating.Finally, at 8:46 p.m., results were updating and for the first time all night the number Voters in six Stafford precincts were given the wrong ballots early Tuesday, Virginia Commissioner of Elections Chris Piper told reporters. The problem was identified within the first half-hour of voting, according to Piper. But any votes cast will count in those races, as they did in 2017, and Piper estimated a full accounting could take “weeks to months.” "The fact that they ran out of ballots at all, much less that it happened at 8 a.m. when the polling station had been open for only two hours, was a source of frustration for many," James Nachman is chair of the Richmond Electoral board not Virginia Board of Elections.
https://www.roanoke.com/news/politics/richmond-precinct-runs
https://www.richmond.com/news/local/government-politics/unkn
https://eu.newsleader.com/story/news/2019/11/05/va-board-ele
This is where I hope the strength of the future rests. The greatest opportunity for preserving the 2nd rests in places where we can get together and shoot/break bread/share a beer. The leftists/globalists/whatever are focused on culturally dividing the USA. If we can transcend race/cultural identities (even some level of political views) over the 2nd Amendment and freedom...
It means that we as a collective have to be visible, and approachable. The best case scenario for gun owners would be to have a discussion with those that we disagree with that goes along the lines of, "The only transgendered person I know is that guy I shoot with at the range sometimes. I don't agree with some of his politics, but he let me shoot his 1911 and I loaned him a shotgun so he could try a 3-gun match. Seems like an OK guy and I know he spoke at the county commissioner meeting last week about becoming a 2A sanctuary county."
Kind of my personal "I have a dream..." moment, but like many gun owners I like my privacy and have dealt with too many unreasonable people to feel truly comfortable being an ambassador like this. I keep working on it though.
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Morning after report:OUCH!!
All my joints are killing me but my foot got the worst of it. Can someone put me in for the purple toe award
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Kudos to you for taking one for the team.Morning after report:OUCH!!
All my joints are killing me but my foot got the worst of it. Can someone put me in for the purple toe award
Kudos to you for taking one for the team.
Right on, appreciate your effort to lend your voice and presence for those of us who were unable to go.
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As a matter of fact they were. I did an interview with a Chinese News outlet:
I did almost a dozen interviews during the rally.
Here are some additional outlets I spoke with.
Vice News:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...s-are-taking-a-victory-lap-for-peaceful-rally
Epoch Times:
https://m.theepochtimes.com/virgini...-arrests-peaceful-demonstrations_3210229.html
French24:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.fr...in-virginia-protest-peaceful-despite-tensions
Others included Univision, A Spain News Network, another South American News Network, The New Yorker, a Japanese News Network, and more.
As the additional articles and interviews are released I'll add them to this thread.
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An article about the diversity at the rally.
Washington Post
January 20, 2020 at 12:30 PM EST
Among an overwhelmingly white and male crowd, some diverse voices
After the speeches wrapped up, rallygoers began marching along the streets of downtown Richmond — including Joe Evans, who hoisted a sign bearing black and red Chinese characters. Evans’s poster stood out amid a flood of Trump paraphernalia and “Don’t Tread on Me” signs.
Also standing out in the crowd was his wife, a Chinese immigrant who recently obtained her U.S. citizenship. She held a sign that read: “Do I look like a white supremacist?”
The couple had met in Beijing while Evans, who is white, was studying abroad, and have been married for seven years. They drove down from Arlington, Va., with their signs to prove that not everyone attending the rally — or every gun owner — is a white supremacist, or even white.
“I’m an immigrant who’s a new U.S. citizen and I feel like the right to protect ourselves is important,” said Evans’s wife, who declined to give her name.
Evans, an immigration attorney, held a sign with a Chinese proverb that translated as “water can support a ship and water can overturn it.”
“It means that people put you in power, and people can remove you from power,” he said.
Evans described the couple as “gay friendly and immigration friendly” but also passionately pro-gun rights.
“There are more of us than you think in deep blue Arlington,” he said, adding that membership at their local gun range was diverse and included Asians, African Americans, Hispanics and members of the LGBTQ community.
“We believe in equality for everyone,” said Evans, who is an independent. “That’s only possible if we have guns — or responsible people at least.”
As they marched, they were approached by an African American man waving a giant Trump 2020 flag on a 20-foot pole.
“Good afternoon young lady,” said Derrick Gibson. “We are the white supremacists, if you believe the news.”
Gibson, 58, had driven down from Queens, N.Y. He, too, was at pains to point out that there was some diversity among the gun rights advocates in the primarily white crowd.
“How are you doing? I’m Governor Northam in blackface,” he told passersby, drawing laughs.
Northam was the target of much derision. Some signs showed him with a Hitler mustache and Nazi armband. Others showed a now-infamous photo from his medical school yearbook page which depicted one person in blackface and another under a Klan hood. “The man behind the sheet wants your guns,” one such sign said.
“Governor Northam, I think I found the white supremacist,” said one such sign. “Unfortunately it’s you!”
“This is not about race,” said Jonathan Austin, 46, from Chesterfield, Va. Austin, who is black, said he supports universal background checks but thought many of the other proposed gun-control bills went too far. “The government shouldn’t have the right to tell us what kind of guns we can have,” he said.
“Gun Rights Are Also Gay Rights” read a sign held by Brandon Brod, 44.
“My husband and I have collected guns for more than 20 years,” said Brod, who lives in Richmond and said he had attended Lobby Day since 2003. He was raised Quaker and still believes in pacifism, except when it comes to self-defense, he said. The country was a safer place now to be gay than in the mid-1990s, when he came out, he said.
“Northam is making it out like we’re all white supremacists,” Brod said. “But I’m a gay man and a Quaker.”
Brod, who said he’s a Libertarian, added that the response to his sign had been positive.
“I’ve been feeling the love,” he said. “At least 100 people have asked me for a photo, including the militia guys.”
By Michael E. Miller
Washington Post
January 20, 2020 at 12:30 PM EST
Among an overwhelmingly white and male crowd, some diverse voices
After the speeches wrapped up, rallygoers began marching along the streets of downtown Richmond — including Joe Evans, who hoisted a sign bearing black and red Chinese characters. Evans’s poster stood out amid a flood of Trump paraphernalia and “Don’t Tread on Me” signs.
Also standing out in the crowd was his wife, a Chinese immigrant who recently obtained her U.S. citizenship. She held a sign that read: “Do I look like a white supremacist?”
The couple had met in Beijing while Evans, who is white, was studying abroad, and have been married for seven years. They drove down from Arlington, Va., with their signs to prove that not everyone attending the rally — or every gun owner — is a white supremacist, or even white.
“I’m an immigrant who’s a new U.S. citizen and I feel like the right to protect ourselves is important,” said Evans’s wife, who declined to give her name.
Evans, an immigration attorney, held a sign with a Chinese proverb that translated as “water can support a ship and water can overturn it.”
“It means that people put you in power, and people can remove you from power,” he said.
Evans described the couple as “gay friendly and immigration friendly” but also passionately pro-gun rights.
“There are more of us than you think in deep blue Arlington,” he said, adding that membership at their local gun range was diverse and included Asians, African Americans, Hispanics and members of the LGBTQ community.
“We believe in equality for everyone,” said Evans, who is an independent. “That’s only possible if we have guns — or responsible people at least.”
As they marched, they were approached by an African American man waving a giant Trump 2020 flag on a 20-foot pole.
“Good afternoon young lady,” said Derrick Gibson. “We are the white supremacists, if you believe the news.”
Gibson, 58, had driven down from Queens, N.Y. He, too, was at pains to point out that there was some diversity among the gun rights advocates in the primarily white crowd.
“How are you doing? I’m Governor Northam in blackface,” he told passersby, drawing laughs.
Northam was the target of much derision. Some signs showed him with a Hitler mustache and Nazi armband. Others showed a now-infamous photo from his medical school yearbook page which depicted one person in blackface and another under a Klan hood. “The man behind the sheet wants your guns,” one such sign said.
“Governor Northam, I think I found the white supremacist,” said one such sign. “Unfortunately it’s you!”
“This is not about race,” said Jonathan Austin, 46, from Chesterfield, Va. Austin, who is black, said he supports universal background checks but thought many of the other proposed gun-control bills went too far. “The government shouldn’t have the right to tell us what kind of guns we can have,” he said.
“Gun Rights Are Also Gay Rights” read a sign held by Brandon Brod, 44.
“My husband and I have collected guns for more than 20 years,” said Brod, who lives in Richmond and said he had attended Lobby Day since 2003. He was raised Quaker and still believes in pacifism, except when it comes to self-defense, he said. The country was a safer place now to be gay than in the mid-1990s, when he came out, he said.
“Northam is making it out like we’re all white supremacists,” Brod said. “But I’m a gay man and a Quaker.”
Brod, who said he’s a Libertarian, added that the response to his sign had been positive.
“I’ve been feeling the love,” he said. “At least 100 people have asked me for a photo, including the militia guys.”
By Michael E. Miller
If you can't decide, split it up and send at least $20 to each. I fired the NRA and sent my $ to GOA.
From my perspective, Step 2 must be a shift from a reactive movement to a proactive one. A movement where it doesn't take the imminent threat of totalitarianism to, in essence, call out the Militia, "the whole body of the People."
That's not to say that circumstances like what's going down in Virginia ought not be cause to get one together quickly, as was done yesterday.
But rallies like this should also be a regular feature of the political landscape such that politicians are constantly reminded that We, the People are there, are watching, and are capable of voting with all four boxes of Liberty, not just the ballot box. No matter which group of liars is in power.
Organization. And regularization.
That needs to be Step 2.
After years of paying annual dues, I finally bought an NRA Life Membership ... exactly 87 seconds before the WLP suit/whore news broke*. Talk about buyer's remorse.
To make up for that blunder I reupped my (lapsed) GRNC membership.
* Ok, not really, but close enough.
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Morning after report:OUCH!!
All my joints are killing me but my foot got the worst of it. Can someone put me in for the purple toe award
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Couldn’t have found a better representative of the firearm community if they tried.
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Thanks dude! I tried to represent.
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Tried, but Wayne and his sack hangers have dug in too deep. North was the new guy and didn't have the clout. Just getting people on the ballot for an open seat on the board is an ordeal. A good few people have walked away from the board because they figured out that a few key people have grabbed way too much power for themselves and everybody else is just there for optics.
That's the funny part to me - with everything that's going on, they just want to describe themselves honestly. And they won't call themselves law-abiding anymore because they know they can't/won't follow laws once they get this bad.