Kyle Rittenhouse 17 year Old Shoots 3 kills 2....

He's 17....most kids have no judgment. I hope it all works out ok for him, but now he has to live with the fact that he killed people. I feel bad for him.
Think of all the 18-19 year olds in the military that go into combat and have to kill people and we have to live with it too. Especially if it is up close and personal. We justify it by calling it "war".
 
Intentions only matter for so much, though. When people try to "do something" that they are entirely unqualified to do, they often end up making things worse. I'm not sure why anyone would think it was a good idea for a 17 year old with no tactical or medical training to go into a highly dangerous situation entirely unnecessarily in order to play TACMEDIC. The kid may have wanted to help, but anyone with any judgment should have been able to predict that there was a high likelihood of things ending badly. He almost died, he ended up killing several people, and now he could potentially spend the rest of his life in prison. For what? A used car dealership that was already badly damaged and was owned by someone he didn't even know? Discretion is always the better part of valor.

All that said, it appears to me that the kid actually handled himself pretty well once the SHTF, and it's pretty clear to me that he only ever used force in self-defense. Hopefully he end up acquitted.

From the start of these 'peaceful demonstrations' there has been a clear lack of leadership at the local level.

Perhaps if the people who were trained and paid to deal with this sort of thing had showed up from the start others less qualified would not have felt compelled to show up.
 
He's 17....most kids have no judgment. I hope it all works out ok for him, but now he has to live with the fact that he killed people. I feel bad for him.
He showed uncommonly good judgement after the fracas started. There were attackers that backed off and he showed the good judgement not to shoot the ones who weren't an immediate threat.
 
From the start of these 'peaceful demonstrations' there has been a clear lack of leadership at the local level.

Perhaps if the people who were trained and paid to deal with this sort of thing had showed up from the start others less qualified would not have felt compelled to show up.

It’s become very clear that most politicians are cowards that prefer to lead from the rear. Making hard decisions might shorten their precious careers.


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It’s become very clear that most politicians are cowards that prefer to lead from the rear. Making hard decisions might shorten their precious careers.


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Agreed, but it seems like more and more local officials like police chiefs and DA's are now politicians and nothing more.
 
I was in the Marine Corps at 17, some kids aren’t kids anymore at 17.

Ditto.

A ten-year old with an AK can kill you just as dead as a 25 year old VC or NVA. I can't speak about what ISIS was using, but in Vietnam in the 60s they were using women and children as conscripts. There are just too many stories that Nam vets could tell you of what we faced. The Vietnamese were told by the NVA that the Marines would eat their babies so they would fear us and not support our "pacification efforts". A group of us back in the 80s used to do "dog and pony" shows at the local high schools in their history classes when they would get to the section on Vietnam. The history books had a short section about the war that was mostly about the My Lai Massacre. About 4 of us at a time would go in and "tell it like it was", not to teach about the war but to answer student's questions (except the one question we told the teachers we would NOT talk about). Still, some idiot would always ask it. We'd just say when we were there and where and what our 'basic job" was so they could get a feel for the variety of jobs that military people did in a war zone. It is NOT like a John Wayne movie! I realized that it wasn't fun and games like boot camp the first time I was shot at for real and knew the SOB shooting was really trying to kill me. It is a day-to-day existence, knowing that every waking moment there is someone out there somewhere who is trying to end your life. You live with it and you deal with it. Then you have the booby traps (now called IEDs) and the wild creatures who want to kill you too - snakes and tigers and even the rock monkeys. When the war starts here (I wish I could say 'IF') each will have to adapt quickly to their local situation as Kyle did during the rioting. Do you ever think about what YOU will do when the SHTF? How will you react when it is YOUR life or your family's life on the line? Are you really ready, mentally and physically, to kill another human being? Think about it.
 
I was in the Marine Corps at 17, some kids aren’t kids anymore at 17.
Well, that's true.....though most of us at 17 aren't too bright about life. I guess you men and women who do the tough jobs had to grow up fast, and I thank you for serving.

But, dang! 17....that must have been weird! I hope you came out (mostly) unscathed?
 
He's 17....most kids have no judgment. I hope it all works out ok for him, but now he has to live with the fact that he killed people. I feel bad for him.
He killed idiots that needed killin. An entirely different matter than killing people. Lol
 
Far as I'm concerned, you're grown at 17. You just have no experience. There is a difference. I've seen a lot of 40 year old idiots. This young man was doing what he felt was the right thing. Some folks didn't like that and took too trying to kill him, but he didn't let them and they took a dirt nap for it. He earned some experience. End of story. It isn't complicated. Edit: It sucks for him, but he isn't dead.
 
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Far as I'm concerned, you're grown at 17. You just have no experience. There is a difference. I've seen a lot of 40 year old idiots. This young man was doing what he felt was the right thing. Some folks didn't like that and took too trying to kill him, but he didn't let them and they took a dirt nap for it. He earned some experience. End of story. It isn't complicated.
I mostly agree.

I'm just saying I worry about the psychological issues that might crop up in a young man that killed people. I'm aware he was defending his life. It still must have some sort of an impact on him. Just my uneducated/inexperienced opinion.

I've never killed anyone, so I have no idea how it can impact a person, but I imagine it's not just going to be business as usual inside this young man's head. I hope I never have to find out what it would be like.
 
I'm not sure why anyone would think it was a good idea for a 17 year old with no tactical or medical training to go into a highly dangerous situation entirely unnecessarily in order to play TACMEDIC. The kid may have wanted to help, but anyone with any judgment should have been able to predict that there was a high likelihood of things ending badly. He almost died, he ended up killing several people, and now he could potentially spend the rest of his life in prison. For what? A used car dealership that was already badly damaged and was owned by someone he didn't even know? Discretion is always the better part of valor.

All that said, it appears to me that the kid actually handled himself pretty well once the SHTF, and it's pretty clear to me that he only ever used force in self-defense. Hopefully he end up acquitted.

If he's a lifeguard, he almost certainly has first aid, BLS/AED, and quite likely further training to deal with medical emergencies. He was there to do what he is trained to be able to do when he drags somebody out of a pool. He was also cleaning graffiti, which requires no special training, and putting out small fires, which also requires no special training but he possibly had to learn working at the YMCA.
As for the rifle... looks like he had some training with it, and the legalities of using it. Attempted retreat, shot in self defense, attempted to notify authorities and get help, had to retreat again, got attacked, didn't shoot the guy who had just attacked him and was running away, got attacked and shot the guy who was still attacking, didn't shoot the guy who feigned a retreat until he produced a gun and continued his attack, attempted to notify authorities. no known other casualties or damage from a "child with a high power assault weapon and a high capacity magazine"...

I'm not saying what he did was flawless or even all legal, but that kid either knows a LOT more than people are giving him credit for or some great twist of fortune was guiding him at that moment.
 
That is what he is claiming but no one is corroborating that story and that is exactly what you and your lawyer would claim if you were in his predicament. It today's day and age I would be willing to bet that if it happened that way there is video of it. We will have to see how it plays out.
You know one of them was a convicted felon with a gun pretty sure he didn’t have it to look at. Sorry I can’t feel sorry for any of these twits or their families. But I think he found the trouble he was hoping for I can see protecting where you live but he traveled
 
kid either knows a LOT more than people are giving him credit for or some great twist of fortune was guiding him at that moment.
I've been staying away from commenting on this event...
But what @DrScaryGuy says rings true to me. They say God acts through us at times. I consider this proof of that. I'm not a religious person, but I was raised to be a good Catholic. Evil exists. The church has exorcists they don't care to talk about, but their existence is proof of their need. Seems Kyle is being made a martyr for his actions. Perhaps proof of God acting through man, which then by extention is proof of God.
 
One of Kyle's lawyers (John Pierce on the left) posted this pic with Kyle upon his release. That's 80's sitcom star Ricky Schroder on the right (he was one of the ones who helped Kyle post bail). The left is going absolutely nuts over the people who donated to help Kyle post bail.

The shirt is effing awesome!

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One of Kyle's lawyers (John Pierce on the left) posted this pic with Kyle upon his release. That's 80's sitcom star Ricky Schroder on the right (he was one of the ones who helped Kyle post bail). The left is going absolutely nuts over the people who donated to help Kyle post bail.

The shirt is effing awesome!

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There is a big stink with BRCC (Black Rifle Coffee Company) right now because one of their reps gave the shirt to Kyle. Now the CEO says they do not support him or his actions.. blah, blah, blah..
 
BRCC made it a point to be very neutral in their statement, a move sure to please nobody. They said they believe in the justice system and support police, but that they did not endorse the 17 year old in question (made it a point to not mention his name). I can appreciate a company trying to stay out of their own way, I suppose, but I've never liked their coffee enough to buy it anyhow. Meh.
 
BRCC made it a point to be very neutral in their statement, a move sure to please nobody. They said they believe in the justice system and support police, but that they did not endorse the 17 year old in question (made it a point to not mention his name). I can appreciate a company trying to stay out of their own way, I suppose, but I've never liked their coffee enough to buy it anyhow. Meh.
While I agree, it was one of their reps that asked Kyle to put on the shirt, take his photo, and offer his discount code in the caption. He then had to take it down after the CEO made the corporate statement. I am just curious if the rep has a job today.
 
While I agree, it was one of their reps that asked Kyle to put on the shirt, take his photo, and offer his discount code in the caption. He then had to take it down after the CEO made the corporate statement. I am just curious if the rep has a job today.
Also could just be the CEO back pedaling when all the predictable backlash popped up. Another case of somebody not knowing their audience?
 
I'm meh on it. Again, I'm not even a coffee snob, and I'm not terribly impressed by their product. It would be like Leggs or Tampax or Taurus coming out as anti-freedom; I wouldn't be terribly affected.

Agreed. I don’t drink anyone’s coffee so they can crash and burn for all I care. Never needed anything to get me awake and going in the morning. Some of us are just born with fire in the veins and awesome powers. :cool:
 
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