My love of 1911's killed by auto ordnance

😄 such anger. I had a bad experience with a 1911 but since it's a 1911 I should give it a break. Nope. AO is not a shit brand. No it's not a dan Wesson. No I'm not protecting my family with it. Nore am I going to keep shooting it. It's not fun to shoot. My love for 1911's is gone for now. In a week month year it will come back when I see one I want. But hey I guess I'm a terrible person to some of y'all now 🤭. But man y'all's attitude about it is worse than any of it. I'm not bashing all 1911's either. Just the one I got. Am I going to sell all my other ones.... Gee I don't think so. 🧐 Be angry be very angry. 😡
 
Beachville said:
I bought a new auto ordnance 1911 full size. Clean and ready to shoot. Jammed 2 times in 5 mag changes. I've had cheaper and more expensive 1911's never had that happen. A Springfield xdm 45 I was going to sell (didn't want it to begin with) first time I shot it was today. 200 rounds down the pipe no failures.
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This is what people call a "lemon", a "POS", a "dud", a "hunk of junk", a "clunker", a "bad one", etc.

I certainly hope you're not one to hang the reputation of the design on the performance of a cheap piece of cr*p.

That would remind me of my wife who gave up good steak for years because of one bad experience with White Castle burgers.
 
It might not. Would not be the first thing that did t like me. Too bull headed
 
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I was honestly frustrated at what happened at the range. Figured I'd get a don't worry about it, or your love will come back after trying the other stuff. But dang. Should have known and thing bad said about a 1911 would be like this.
 
Beachville said:
I was honestly frustrated at what happened at the range. Figured I'd get a don't worry about it, or your love will come back after trying the other stuff. But dang. Should have known and thing bad said about a 1911 would be like this.
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this.... has nothing to do with 1911's. not really....

Its the derailment of the train of logic.

You could change the model, maker, and everything else, and it would STILL not make sense.
 
Love of 1911s killed....plan to put it in the safe for another generation while you make terrible comparisons.
Got it.
 
Beachville said:
It is what it is my love for 1911's is gone for now. Logic doesn't have to have anything to do with it.
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Okie dokie then.... Enjoy other designs. its all good.

just understand that the reason people reacted is the logic. or lack there in....
 
Beachville said:
I guess I'm going to ha e to change my name get plastic surgery and move to Brazil to start over. 🤕
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No no no we are just having a little fun maybe at your expense.

What kind of failures were you experiencing? FTF, FTE…?

If you describe what the problem was in detail I bet the CFF brain trust can help you get it running.
 
It’s not a totally dumb thread. I think we all need the occasional reality check.

Plenty of manufacturers have found ways to make guns simpler and “better” through design elements in the past century. Locking blocks instead of pivoting links, ejection ports as barrel lug recesses, big ramped barrels with generous chambers, coil-sprung extractors, fire control group subassemblies that include the ejectors, etc.

Modern service guns are all designed around modern production techniques (CNC, MIM, assembly by assemblers). Unless they have a materials issue or an out-of-dimension part slips through QC, they tend to work. $500, economies of scale, and a modern design goes pretty far.

1911s are different. An extractor does not come out of casting or machining properly tensioned. A slightly undersized FPS can make proper tensioning almost impossible because of excess play and clocking. Tolerance stacking between finish-machined frames and slide stops means barrel links have to come in different sizes. Mag catches are not one-size fits all—all it takes is a thou or three here and there in the magazine catch cut on the mag, the catch cut in the frame, the mag catch itself, and the ejector… and the magazine is slamming into the bottom of the ejector every reload.

When you have skilled tradesmen assembling those guns, they address those problems during assembly. When you have assemblers dropping components into guns from a big plastic bin, the consumer becomes the beta tester. $500 for a 1911 is like playing the lottery. $1,000 to $1,500 for a 1911 gets you better chances. An extra $200-300 for a gunsmith’s time and $150 for some forged internals gets you peace of mind.
 
Desolo said:
this.... has nothing to do with 1911's. not really....

Its the derailment of the train of logic.

You could change the model, maker, and everything else, and it would STILL not make sense.
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Elenaidan said:
My love for 1911's was destroyed by owning 1911's. When they start making them run as well as a Glock, Sig Sauer or HK I may buy one again.
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Oh, man...I LOVE the comic relief around here!
 
yeah, well... before i smoothed down some engagements and installed/tuned a new trigger, my 1911 worked fine. I blame the WC and chip mags i have for making the trigger bind up now.
jk. i just put my overtravel screw riiiight on the edge of jamming, so depending on where i have my finger on the trigger, it will either shoot or not. probably backing off like 1/32 of a turn would fix it.
as somebody who has never had to tune a pistol, this is an interesting experience.
 
Beachville said:
Should have known and thing bad said about a 1911 would be like this.
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You should have been here a couple weeks ago when the CFF 5th edition of The 1911 Is A God thread was in full bloom.
The 1911 fan boys were ranking the invention above stuff like penicillin and space flight. It was awesome.
It gets better with each new edition which usually come along every 8 months or so. I expect next time the 1911 will be more miraculous than human birth.
 
Everyone else has said it. But it's an auto ordnance. If you want to learn a handful of things about the 1911 listen to the "two world wars" podcasts on primary and secondary. Everyone on the panel agrees if you cannot afford a Ruger sr1911 just don't bother. That being said most of those guys are anti foreign made 1911s I know a few people running RIA and they work fine.

I like the idea of selling 500 $1 raffle tickets and let one of us abuse it. Personally I think it needs to be baptized. Find a good creek or muddy pond to throw it in then run a mag of spicy boys out if it. That'll fix it up.
 
Friday said:
You should have been here a couple weeks ago when the CFF 5th edition of The 1911 Is A God thread was in full bloom.
The 1911 fan boys were ranking the invention above stuff like penicillin and space flight. It was awesome.
It gets better with each new edition which usually come along every 8 months or so. I expect next time the 1911 will be more miraculous than human birth.
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More advanced design than the freaking space shuttle itself.
 
NKD said:
But I had a Charter Arms revolver that wasn’t timed well.
So I no longer use revolvers because they all suck.
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I had one that would keyhole wadcutters at 20ft. Perfect rectangular holes. And yet I still bought revolvers after that. Ok, I never bought another Charter Arms.
 
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Beachville said:
I guess I'm going to ha e to change my name get plastic surgery and move to Brazil to start over. 🤕
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Don't. You've been through the gauntlet now. You'll get more respect if you stick around.
 
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georgel said:
Don't. You've been through the gauntlet now. You'll have more respect if you stick around.
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He won't have my respect until he squanches that thing into a creek and chucks it in a hole.
 

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Most people that post about a problem are looking for advice. Frankly most of us don’t want to either tie up space in the safe or pass along a lemon. We’re happy to help you get it in shape to the best of our combined ability, or just send it back and they’ll play with it, or put a note in the box and hide it for the next generation. Your gun, you decide.
 
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