My love of 1911's killed by auto ordnance

Johnny said:
More advanced design than the freaking space shuttle itself.
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Well,
They were designed before 1911, without computers or blueprints, and they sure put the hurt on a lot of bad guys, even with their itty-bitty sights. They didn’t cost but pennies in comparison, and they work just as well in the cold as in the hot.
And, unless you double-charge your Bullseye, they don’t blow up as often as the Space Shuttles🤦🏻‍♂️
👩🏻‍🚀👨‍🚀😢
 
Amanda4461 said:
Well,
They were designed before 1911, without computers or blueprints, and they sure put the hurt on a lot of bad guys, even with their itty-bitty sights. They didn’t cost but pennies in comparison, and they work just as well in the cold as in the hot.
And, unless you double-charge your Bullseye, they don’t blow up as often as the Space Shuttles🤦🏻‍♂️
👩🏻‍🚀👨‍🚀😢
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Now your just making up random stuff.
 
ColtComanche said:
New as in Newly Manufactured or New to You? AO was known as crap only suitable as bases for years.
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Almost every AO gun I've handled felt like they forgot to send it to final finishing, before shipping. They don't even feel clean.
 
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Murtaugh said:
Thread made sense until this, now I know it is fake news.
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ColtComanche said:
I've seen two. They were Gen 1 17s'
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.....fun fact, it was a gen 1 that had an INCREDIBLE amount of lint and garbage in it...

Like 30 years worth. And no oil.

Buddy Of mine worked at a gun store and had it come in to be looked at after it was brought in because it "Didnt work" after being left without maintenance for lord knows how long.


once it was fully cleaned and oiled it ran like a top.
 
Desolo said:
.....fun fact, it was a gen 1 that had an INCREDIBLE amount of lint and garbage in it...

Like 30 years worth. And no oil.

Buddy Of mine worked at a gun store and had it come in to be looked at after it was brought in because it "Didnt work" after being left without maintenance for lord knows how long.


once it was fully cleaned and oiled it ran like a top.
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30 years of lint & garbage with no oil? Let me guess, former Police duty weapon?
 
My first 1911 circa 1987 was a west Hurley auto ordinance and it was a turd.
What it did do for me was teach me how to work on 1911s. I think the only stock part still there is the frame... and it has been modified quite a bit. Runs like a sewing machine.
 
I believe what most people took issue was the conversation went something like this:

“I bought a cheap 1911 and it ran like a cheap 1911 so I don’t like 1911s anymore”.
“Well, it’s a cheap 1911, they do that sometimes.”
“No, they don’t.”
“Yes, they do. Your cheap 1911 behaved exactly like a cheap 1911. A more expensive 1911 probably won’t do that, so no reason to dislike 1911s.”
“I don’t like trucks anymore because red smells like the color 9.”
“What does that mean?”
“Why are y’all getting angry?”
“Huh”


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B00ger said:
I believe what most people took issue was the conversation went something like this:

“I bought a cheap 1911 and it ran like a cheap 1911 so I don’t like 1911s anymore”.
“Well, it’s a cheap 1911, they do that sometimes.”
“No, they don’t.”
“Yes, they do. Your cheap 1911 behaved exactly like a cheap 1911. A more expensive 1911 probably won’t do that, so no reason to dislike 1911s.”
“I don’t like trucks anymore because red smells like the color 9.”
“What does that mean?”
“Why are y’all getting angry?”
“Huh”


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PREACH!
 
ColtComanche said:
30 years of lint & garbage with no oil? Let me guess, former Police duty weapon?
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Older woman, had had it since the 80's.

I believe it was stated her husband had bought it for her...
So maybe worse off then the average police duty weapon lol.
 
Wow, I came here to make a wise ass remark and have fun, but it appears I’m too late. I’d say everyone else has about covered this.

I’ll shoot one of my 1911’s on Friday and see if I can get it to fail. It’s only 400 rounds old, but hasn’t been broken down or cleaned yet. Maybe this week is the week it does it’s walk of shame back to the safe for 30 years.
 
Kimber products circa 2011 certainly made me lose my love for stocking and selling Kimber 1911s.

Rust. Everywhere, rust. All the time, no matter the maintenance. If a gun didn't sell in a week... the barrel would rust.

And all the people upset that we didn't do "returns" after we (having tried to sell them every other gun in the cabinet) refused to buy back their borderline non-functional Ultra models.
- It needs a 500 round break-in.
- You have to replace the recoil spring every 500-1000 rounds.
- It needs quality mags to run.
- The slide travel is too short to feed reliably with many common hollowpoints.
- Zero tolerance for an imperfect grip or unlocked wrist (and the only people that ever bought these things were physically-feeble doctors).
- If the Swartz system is even a tiny bit out of spec, enjoy your gun that randomly fails to fire.
 
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1) If you're gonna buy a truck gun 1911, buy the TOP of the line model.

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- RIA FS Ultra -

2) Examine, and then fire, for fit, function, and accuracy.

3) When satisfied, toss under seat / in console / glovebox / etc., AS LEGAL IN YOUR JURISDICTION

4) Shoot occasionally

5) Clean MORE often, depending on your weather (winter in Pittsburgh means LOTSA ice/snow/SALT getting tracked into the truck; plus extreme cold [overnight], and then extreme heat [heater], which means condensation - and ALL of which means RUST). I check mine weekly in the winter around here - clean with a wipedown of oil at a minimum of monthly, even if I haven't shot it.

YMMV.
 
JRV said:
Kimber products circa 2011 certainly made me lose my love for stocking and selling Kimber 1911s.

Rust. Everywhere, rust. All the time, no matter the maintenance. If a gun didn't sell in a week... the barrel would rust.

And all the people upset that we didn't do "returns" after we (having tried to sell them every other gun in the cabinet) refused to buy back their borderline non-functional Ultra models.
- It needs a 500 round break-in.
- You have to replace the recoil spring every 500-1000 rounds.
- It needs quality mags to run.
- The slide travel is too short to feed reliably with many common hollowpoints.
- Zero tolerance for an imperfect grip or unlocked wrist (and the only people that ever bought these things were physically-feeble doctors).
- If the Swartz system is even a tiny bit out of spec, enjoy your gun that randomly fails to fire.
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I’ll stick with my Government Model from the 30s.
 
@Beachville
What kind of jams did it have? I'd bet you could pretty easily get an idea of the issue and replace an inexpensive part or two. Or maybe just the magazine, who knows. Maybe better to fix and enjoy, rather than stuffing it in a drawer for 30 years.
 
CZfool68 said:
Wow, I came here to make a wise ass remark and have fun, but it appears I’m too late. I’d say everyone else has about covered this.

I’ll shoot one of my 1911’s on Friday and see if I can get it to fail. It’s only 400 rounds old, but hasn’t been broken down or cleaned yet. Maybe this week is the week it does it’s walk of shame back to the safe for 30 years.
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You know your not supposed to clean that Baer until you have shot 500 rounds. LOL
 
Amanda4461 said:
All you Kimber haters put your hated pistols in a bucket and set them outside, PM your address to me and see how long they stick around⏳
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The Venn diagram of "Kimber haters" and "current Kimber owners" is two circles about ten feet apart.
 
John Travis said:
Define "Jammed" in as much detail as you can remember. A photo of the malfunction would also be helpful.
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I bet there’s no picture. I could be wrong, but experience says there’s no pic.
 
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