It's going to become standard tactics for the police to turn off phones before a raid?
This was covered in Clancy's Rainbow Six many years ago. Bottom line, yes.It's going to become standard tactics for the police to turn off phones before a raid?
There's a tactical lesson here gents... Communication is critical and they can and will shut you down... Have a means to get the word out... It may save your life...
More than likely, then they raided the rally point for the protesters and arrested people for..... peaceable assembly?
Sounds very legal.
Good idea. It’s still jammable, especially FM with capture effect. However, their frequencies are jammable too. Someone like you or I and a few others here have the knowledge to make equipment that could do it, too. It’s not hard once you understand how a basic transmitter works. It doesn’t take much signal power to render the frequency unusable within 10s of miles of range.Ham radio, anyone?
Just like food stamps. Taking the government dole means submitting to government control.During the Obama years, VA doctors were practically pushing it on people coming off deployment, according to several friends. Someone in the administration wanted as many vets with PTSD as possible.
It's going to become standard tactics for the police to turn off phones before a raid?
Yeah, but it's illegal if you do it. When THEY do it it's to save lives. It's worth impacting the rights of everybody around without reason if they can save just one life. Don't you want to save this veteran's life? why don't you support our veterans, deplorable?It doesn’t take much signal power to render the frequency unusable within 10s of miles of range.
http://westchester.news12.com/story...stic-incident-causes-7hour-standoff-in-carmelPolice say a man facing charges in a domestic incident barricaded himself inside his home in Carmel Saturday, causing a seven-hour standoff.
They say it started around 2 p.m. when an officer went to speak with 28-year-old Alexander Booth at his home on Putnam Drive about an incident involving his wife.
The officer says they heard what believed to be a gunshot and requested backup when Booth barricaded himself. The Town of Carmel Police Department, The Putnam County Sheriff's Office and the Westchester County Department of Public Safety's special response and negotiation team responded to the standoff.
Officials say social media posts from Booth started going viral during the standoff, which led to a flood of phone calls and messages over the incident. The Putnam County Sheriff's Office says the calls shut down its ability to communicate with the community.
Police say it came to a peaceful resolution around 9:30 p.m. when Booth surrendered himself to police.
He was arrested and is facing charges related to a previous domestic incident, including burglary, criminal trespass, criminal contempt, aggravated harassment and petit larceny.
Police say they did not recover any weapons or ammunition from Booth's home and believe no one was injured.
There are a couple of lessons here. “They” are obviously plugged into the corporate social media, which was old news, but with real time capability at a disinformation campaign. It strikes me that this is a side offshoot of their “civil society 2.0” work to plug into social media to incite revolt. What’s somewhat shocking is that they would have implemented that here.Not just for raids, they have shut them off during protests, emergencies, etc. Isolated cases so far and it hasn't become SOP, but there's a chance this incident may change their mind on that.
If they want to start a fight, they’re going to get what’s commonly called 4th generation warfare. The first casualty is going to be “the law”.]Yeah, but it's illegal if you do it. When THEY do it it's to save lives. It's worth impacting the rights of everybody around without reason if they can save just one life. Don't you want to save this veteran's life? why don't you support our veterans, deplorable?
YouTube accounts live streaming this are being shut down. ‘Sean Havok did a live stream letting people know what was going on. It got taken down within minutes. He blasted this guys address calling locals to go . He can not livestream.
Ham radio, anyone?
Easy to jam as most things are.
Anything commercial could likely just be shutdown like you said. The jamming was in regards to ham bands but the technology applies to bands for other services as well. It’s highly illegal because it is effective. In FM ham radio it’s called “doubling” or capture effect. Basically the receivers intermix the signals and intelligible decode becomes nearly impossible. Also in the presence of strong signals receivers become overloaded and unable to detect weaker signals.Are they actually "jamming" anything? Pumping out garbage on frequencies seems unreliable. Way easier to just shut the cell towers down. Or better still, just change them so they don't accept traffic from non-approved phones so the .gov isn't impacted in the area and everyone else is. It's all digital, no reason not to code things the way you want them.
Easy to jam as most things are.
The key is to freq hop or hard wire outside of the city coded requirements.
Good idea. It’s still jammable, especially FM with capture effect. However, their frequencies are jammable too. Someone like you or I and a few others here have the knowledge to make equipment that could do it, too. It’s not hard once you understand how a basic transmitter works. It doesn’t take much signal power to render the frequency unusable within 10s of miles of range.
Yes. The general public is being lead to believe that gun owners are violent extremist. A few more incidents like this, especially if one involves gun fire and we will be prime for a Reichstag fire.The concurrence of this episode and the Sandy Hook lawsuit kerfuffle have me even more on edge than usual, generally speaking. (As I have mentioned peripherally before, I am personally especially sensitive to the "red flag" potential abuse factor.)
IMO, the current climate in America is trending decidedly negative on a number of fronts.
True. That is one of the things we were told in AuxComm training.From a practical standpoint, both you and I are better at operating our equipment than a fleet of LEO's with some tech box they've been handed.
That’s because each device has an ID code that is used as a permission slip. Any commercial product, or especially service, can be taken over by gubmint.Not so much jamming, but just turning off your devices. My FIL worked and retired from ATT, he was in on the start of cell phone tech. If the government can get your number, it's not hard to turn service off to that devices.
Agree. Of course even the most basic of handhelds can jump frequency within seconds anywhere from a few Kc to hundreds of Mhz to a different band. Sophisticated mil stuff is BIG, expensive, ponderous, and unavailable to most local PDs. From a practical standpoint, both you and I are better at operating our equipment than a fleet of LEO's with some tech box they've been handed.
It's a bureaucratic exercise to shut off cell service or take side cutters to coax cable.
Saturating hundreds of Mhz with high power FM?
Ain't gonna happen....
That’s likely what it’s going to take. People who don’t know each other personally, except for sharing a common belief of right and wrong, and that govt. has gone too far coming together to stand against said govt.I pledge to each of you tonight.....if I can come to your aid or you can get here, we'll put on a good show.
That’s likely what it’s going to take. People who don’t know each other personally, except for sharing a common belief of right and wrong, and that govt. has gone too far coming together to stand against said govt.
Don't know what perspective you're coming from. If you're talking about how easy it is to jam cell phones, yes. You can even order cheap stuff from China that does it. And government entities can shut down towers. If you're talking about shutting down ham radio, that's completely different in scope and magnitude. Ham radio covers an almost infinite spectrum of frequencies and modalities not necessarily bound by channels or otherwise fixed architecture. It would take something like an EMP pulse to shut everything down and that would shut EVERYTHING down. That is until a ham radio operator pulls out his backup unit.For some of you that have never looked up jamming, the key is a barrage jammer, the easest of all to do.
Google is your friend and if you had attic space a barrage jammer works on all levels, even the tac team near you.....
OR
https://www.jammer-store.com/gsm-blockers-jammers/
Both sides being played.
That’s likely what it’s going to take. People who don’t know each other personally, except for sharing a common belief of right and wrong, and that govt. has gone too far coming together to stand against said govt.
For those reading this and thinking Bundy was wrong, etc, etc, No he was not wrong
Eh, debatable.
For those reading this and thinking Bundy was wrong, etc, etc, No he was not wrong at the Core issue
Corruption. The ideal system is based upon a concept commonly called checks and balances where courts and even petitioning legislators are the traditional means of redress. Of course this assumes right will prevail over wrong and traditions and principles such as the 2nd will be respected. Unfortunately, in an environment of activist courts and distorted legislator distribution caused by dense liberal Democrat areas the system is failing.So there's this Alex that is the catalyst and two common denominators, being unconstitutional RFL and True American Spirit.
Addressing the unconstitutional RFL, there are better ways or laws already to address two of the three stories I read.
For some of you that have never looked up jamming, the key is a barrage jammer, the easest of all to do.
Google is your friend and if you had attic space a barrage jammer works on all levels, even the tac team near you.....
OR
https://www.jammer-store.com/gsm-blockers-jammers/
I'm a charter member of that club!I pledge to each of you tonight.....if I can come to your aid or you can get here, we'll put on a good show.
Despite the fact that it well documented to have happened a number of times, a lot of people aren't even aware that it is possible. I've seen a few news stories where they just stated something like "cell services were unavailable". It's concerning to me because either the news is complicit, or they are shirking THEIR duties to report what happened because the gov't is imposing a blackout and they're not fighting it.We're not talking about cell phone jamming. That's already a given.