Alec Baldwin shoots and kills film crew member, injures another 'didnt know it was loaded'

Trevillian said:
Lost my "give a darn" when it was all about he "didn't pull the trigger" "not his fault", other bs...

I expected to hear something about how terrible it was that a tool in his hand killed someone during a film production, if it was truly an accident. Ya know.

A mistake was made. Somewhere in the safety chain someone screwed up and he held the prop that killed a person... Accidents happen.

But nope. It was everyone/everything's fault but his own that when he pointed a gun/prop/whatever at someone and pulled the trigger he had not a single thing to do with the aftermath....
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Typical narcissist response.
 
Looks like he needs to get more sleep, I guess the baby is keeping him up at night. He can't stand up straight as he walks with the kids.
 
I read some of these articles last night. Those assets - whether in a Trust or not - are fully visible to and at risk for any litigation / civil suits. They were his assets as of the date of the “event” and therefore should be free game to the plaintiffs. If they were in a Trust prior to the “event”, I’m guessing that could change things but they weren’t.

Legally, I don’t think he can hide or protect them at this point. Am I wrong?
 
RacerX said:
I read some of these articles last night. Those assets - whether in a Trust or not - are fully visible to and at risk for any litigation / civil suits. They were his assets as of the date of the “event” and therefore should be free game to the plaintiffs. If they were in a Trust prior to the “event”, I’m guessing that could change things but they weren’t.

Legally, I don’t think he can hide or protect them at this point. Am I wrong?
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Depends. If he gets them out of the country to one that's friendly to defendants, then yes.

However, he has a LOT of assets tied up in the states. What he'll have to do is get them irrevocably transferred somehow.

Even so, when you're taking about tens of millions or more, there will be plenty of attorneys who will be willing to go for it.
 
RacerX said:
I read some of these articles last night. Those assets - whether in a Trust or not - are fully visible to and at risk for any litigation / civil suits. They were his assets as of the date of the “event” and therefore should be free game to the plaintiffs. If they were in a Trust prior to the “event”, I’m guessing that could change things but they weren’t.

Legally, I don’t think he can hide or protect them at this point. Am I wrong?
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He may be able to buy annuities in the names of his children. I don't know the specifics, but that's a strategy used when you need to spend down assets before applying for medicaid support of a person that has to live out their life in assisted care.
 
Liquidating assets in the midst of legal storm wont look good to a judge; Even worse to a jury. This falls under playing stupid games and winning stupid prizes. Popping corn!

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As much as I’d like to see the book thrown at Baldwin, its also been nearly a year and he has been charged with nothing. I will reserve any thoughts of justice until I see some action from the prosecutor rather than some vague words.

”When all is said and done, a lot more is said than done.”
 
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Timfoilhat said:
He may be able to buy annuities in the names of his children. I don't know the specifics, but that's a strategy used when you need to spend down assets before applying for medicaid support of a person that has to live out their life in assisted care.
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I don't think that will matter. When my mom had a stroke and was in the hospital at Duke the financial guy came to talk to us about moving her to rehab back home. He stressed that just because mom's house was already in our name it did not matter. They could go back 7 years on things like that to pay for her care. This was in 05. You should have seen the look on his face when we told him the house was transferred in 97.

Not sure if that applies here or not.
 
ronn47 said:
Well, it looks like he bought his way out of sleeping with Bubba.
Halyna Hutchins husband sold his and the kids souls.


www.bbc.com

Alec Baldwin reaches settlement over Halyna Hutchins shooting on Rust set

Filming of Rust will resume in January, with Hutchins' husband on board as executive producer.
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he settled the civil suit. criminal charges are still up in the air
i don't expect them to charge him for much. the investigators came out immediately talking about how easy it was for the gun to go off by itself...
 
DrScaryGuy said:
he settled the civil suit. criminal charges are still up in the air
i don't expect them to charge him for much. the investigators came out immediately talking about how easy it was for the gun to go off by itself...
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I never expected much from the criminal charge, but was sure hoping for a MAJOR civil cash dump from him.
 
DrScaryGuy said:
he settled the civil suit. criminal charges are still up in the air
i don't expect them to charge him for much. the investigators came out immediately talking about how easy it was for the gun to go off by itself...
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Maybe they did. But the FBI report said the gun could not have gone off without the trigger being pulled first. More, the gun had to be fully cocked for this to have happened. It wouldn't go off in either of the other two hammer positions when the trigger was pulled...ONLY when fully cocked.

Easy or not, that trigger HAD to be pulled. And Alec Baldwin's fingers were the ones on that gun when it went off.

Single action six guns of that design are easy to shoot. It's inherenet in their design. Being the owner of a Colt SAA myself, I can attest to that. But "easy" doesn't come into play on claims that such a gun would fire all by itself, which is exactly what Alec Baldwin is claiming.
 
ronn47 said:
Well, it looks like he bought his way out of sleeping with Bubba.
Halyna Hutchins husband sold his and the kids souls.
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Yes, he did.

Halyna's husband is full of BS about it, too.

"I have no interest in engaging in recriminations or attribution of blame," he added. "All of us believe Halyna's death was a terrible accident."

If he truly belived it was nothing more than a terrible accident and he had "no interest in engaging in recriminations or attribution of blame", then why the civil lawsuit in the first place?

I get the lawsuit...totally understandable. But that kind of statement just makes the guy sound disengenuous at best. It pretty much comes across, to me, as part of the settlement to make Alec look better.
 
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@RetiredUSNChief I don't disagree with you one bit.
But what is the FBI's jurisdiction on this other than offering assistance? If the state declines to file charges, was there some civil rights violation they're going to make charges stick for? are they going to claim it was domestic terrorism (please please please)? The fix seems to be in with the locals, so are we counting on the biden admin to crack down on the guy currently best known for spoofing trump?

If i wanted to put on my conspiracy hat... the feds could easily dream up some charges they know they'd have trouble sticking... but tell baldwin all he has to do to make them go away is play along and turn up the parodies if trump makes a run for 2024.
 
RetiredUSNChief said:
Halyna's husband is full of BS about it, too.

"I have no interest in engaging in recriminations or attribution of blame," he added. "All of us believe Halyna's death was a terrible accident."

If he truly belived it was nothing more than a terrible accident and he had "no interest in engaging in recriminations or attribution of blame", then why the civil lawsuit in the first place?

I get the lawsuit...totally understandable. But that kind of statement just makes the guy sound disengenuous at best.
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terms of the settlement. admit it was an accident and toe the party line, get paid millions. or fight in court and be out of pocket for the lawyers when baldwin's millions focus on destroying your life.
 
DrScaryGuy said:
@RetiredUSNChief I don't disagree with you one bit.
But what is the FBI's jurisdiction on this other than offering assistance? If the state declines to file charges, was there some civil rights violation they're going to make charges stick for? are they going to claim it was domestic terrorism (please please please)? The fix seems to be in with the locals, so are we counting on the biden admin to crack down on the guy currently best known for spoofing trump?

If i wanted to put on my conspiracy hat... the feds could easily dream up some charges they know they'd have trouble sticking... but tell baldwin all he has to do to make them go away is play along and turn up the parodies if trump makes a run for 2024.
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Their "jurisdiction" is that the gun was sent to them for forensic analysis. They didn't step in and say "Y'all stand aside, we got this now."
 
RetiredUSNChief said:
Yes, he did.

Halyna's husband is full of BS about it, too.

"I have no interest in engaging in recriminations or attribution of blame," he added. "All of us believe Halyna's death was a terrible accident."

If he truly belived it was nothing more than a terrible accident and he had "no interest in engaging in recriminations or attribution of blame", then why the civil lawsuit in the first place?

I get the lawsuit...totally understandable. But that kind of statement just makes the guy sound disengenuous at best. It pretty much comes across, to me, as part of the settlement to make Alec look better.
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Maybe he wanted her off'd and he got in with Baldwin to make it happen?
 
Not even mad at Baldwin (aside him being monkeypox spunk in a sewer) or the FIB.

Taking an executive producer credit for your spouse getting blasted is 9th level of Hell tier.
 
RetiredUSNChief said:
Their "jurisdiction" is that the gun was sent to them for forensic analysis. They didn't step in and say "Y'all stand aside, we got this now."
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I get your point, however I believe their “jurisdiction” was simply that the FEEBS have ZERO integrity. They are 100% bought and paid for, with no interest in justice, simply being the hatchet man gestapo for the woke hollyweird elite and leftist communist politicians. An excuse was made to bring the FEEBS in so that the outcome was never in doubt. They couldn’t risk random Johnny Q Law, every once in a while one of those guys believes in honor, integrity, and the constitution.
 
Spartan said:
I get your point, however I believe their “jurisdiction” was simply that the FEEBS have ZERO integrity. They are 100% bought and paid for, with no interest in justice, simply being the hatchet man gestapo for the woke hollyweird elite and leftist communist politicians. An excuse was made to bring the FEEBS in so that the outcome was never in doubt. They couldn’t risk random Johnny Q Law, every once in a while one of those guys believes in honor, integrity, and the constitution.
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I'm not sure I get this posting, in light of the fact that their assessment was most definitely NOT in favor of Alec's story.
 
The husband's lawsuit will set the standard for settling all of the other civil suits against Baldwin.

The potential criminal consequences were never very great. I researched New Mexico law at the time and, if I remember correctly, involuntary manslaughter or negligent homicide has a maximum penalty of 18 months in jail and a $5K fine. Baldwin could easily be charged, convicted, and given a light sentence that he would serve on weekends while finishing the filming of Rust.
 
gc70 said:
The husband's lawsuit will set the standard for settling all of the other civil suits against Baldwin.

The potential criminal consequences were never very great. I researched New Mexico law at the time and, if I remember correctly, involuntary manslaughter or negligent homicide has a maximum penalty of 18 months in jail and a $5K fine. Baldwin could easily be charged, convicted, and given a light sentence that he would serve on weekends while finishing the filming of Rust.
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Lack of punishment notwithstanding he should at least be charged. I'm sure he will find the humiliation of a public trial to be a punishment in and of itself. I would very much like to see a prosecutor cross-examine him on stand. I think that could take him down a notch.
 
The Santa Fe Sheriff’s Office completed its investigation Thursday into the fatal “Rust” shooting that left cinematographer Halyna Hutchins dead — and criminal charges against those involved, including Alec Baldwin, may be imminent.

“Today, District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies received the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s investigative report on the Rust movie set incident,” Heather Brewer, the spokesperson for Santa Fe’s top prosecutor, said in an email.


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Santa Fe detectives complete investigation into Alec Baldwin ‘Rust’ shooting — criminal charges may be imminent

The Santa Fe Sheriff’s Office completed their investigation into the fatal “Rust” shooting — and charges against those involved, including Alec Baldwin, may be imminent.
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Hang 'em high
 
ronn47 said:
The Santa Fe Sheriff’s Office completed its investigation Thursday into the fatal “Rust” shooting that left cinematographer Halyna Hutchins dead — and criminal charges against those involved, including Alec Baldwin, may be imminent.

“Today, District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies received the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s investigative report on the Rust movie set incident,” Heather Brewer, the spokesperson for Santa Fe’s top prosecutor, said in an email.


nypost.com

Santa Fe detectives complete investigation into Alec Baldwin ‘Rust’ shooting — criminal charges may be imminent

The Santa Fe Sheriff’s Office completed their investigation into the fatal “Rust” shooting — and charges against those involved, including Alec Baldwin, may be imminent.
nypost.com nypost.com


Hang 'em high
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My breath....not holding it.
 

Now he is suing for a share of damages, shifting blame onto others. Seems however he finally concedes that he pulled the trigger . . . But it's all someone else's fault.

'Saying he wants to clear his name, Alec Baldwin on Friday sued people involved in handling and supplying the loaded gun he was using when it fired, killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins during a 2021 filming accident in New Mexico.

Baldwin filed a cross-complaint in Superior Court in Los Angeles alleging negligence against some of the people sued by a script supervisor, Mamie Mitchell. Among other things, it seeks a share of any damages that Mitchell may win from the people Baldwin names and asks that they pay for any damages assessed against him.'
 
Jmoser said:
Now he is suing for a share of damages, shifting blame onto others. Seems however he finally concedes that he pulled the trigger . . . But it's all someone else's fault.
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Let me guess, he's going to get some other people to take the civil fall, probably help them pay for it through promises of future work or something, and use the civil findings to help defend against pending criminal charges against him.
Meanwhile, the whole thing will get so legally convoluted that no criminal charges will land anywhere, and he's probably worked that out with the prosecutor ahead of time
 
Jmoser said:
'Saying he wants to clear his name, Alec Baldwin on Friday sued people involved in handling and supplying the loaded gun he was using when it fired, killing cinematographer Halyna Hutchins during a 2021 filming accident in New Mexico.
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So, when it comes full circle and ends up that the producer is ultimately responsible, who pays?
 
rdinatal said:
Which, from what I read, is him.
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I read the same, but I can't quite believe that they aren't covered by a corporate entity. JJ Abrams is Bad Robot...George Lucas was Lucasfilm, Spielberg was part of DreamWorks. So Baldwin is probably covered by an LLC or something that will just go broke and he'll walk clean.
Edit...looks like El Dorado Pictures is his company.
 
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