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Now that I have your attention, serious question. I haven't bought any in a while, nor do I shoot a lot, but how in the world do people/ target shooters/ AR owners/ go out and shoot 100's of rounds a weekend of 9mm or other calibers for that matter? I mean you're seeing 9 going for close to $1 a round. Last two boxes I bought were $14.99 a box at Dunham's a little before Christmas 2020 and I bought them just because. I just can't seem to make myself go out there and pop one off. Every time you squeeze the trigger, do you think, "well there goes a dollar"? Or if you shoot 50 rounds, "there's $50 down the drain". I love guns, I swear I do. I have a bad infatuation with pistols. I want more and even though I'm so unfortunately broke right now, I find myself on here and a few more sites every night dreaming. I'm not a seasoned gun owner. I haven't saved up 10,000's of rounds of ammo. I just wonder how people do it. I would love to know what it's like to have enough money that I could shoot 100 rounds of 556 or 9, or even 30-06 for that matter. I have given $37 for 20 rounds of hunting ammo, then I've given .79 a round for military surplus. I thought I was getting a good deal in that, but to hear some say, I got ripped even then. But who can afford to just waste it even at that amount? Do you guys think ammo will ever come down or do you think hoarding will just keep running the price up? What do us new gunners do, bite the bullet so to speak and pay up for ammo now? I've asked several questions that hopefully won't rub anyone the wrong way. Don't want any smart butt answers. Just looking for guidance from the ones that are actually here to help.
 
NCDirtSlinger said:
Don't want any smart butt answers. Just looking for guidance from the ones that are actually here to help.
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Honestly, this is about the 10,000th post along the same lines. So at this point all we have left are smart butt responses.
 
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You don't buy it all at once. You build up over time.
When prices go up, you may shoot less, but you know you didn't pay $1 per shot, you paid maybe $0.13.
I don't shoot as much as I did a while ago, but I still shoot some.
If you've been in this hobby for less than 2 years, this is your first rodeo. but it happened in 2015/16, off and on again in 2007-15 (big time in 2013), I remember some of it back in 03/04 when the assault weapons ban might or might not have been renewed. and i assume it kept going before that but you'd have to ask somebody older.
 
A while back I took a new pistol out and had some fun. About 150 rounds in I caught myself opening another box of 9mm. Said, damn that was just about $75! Put it down and shot some 22lr for a while. Guess it is time to make every shot count. No spraying blindly now.
 
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Use this time for training. I spent 8 hours last weekend and went through less ammo than I normally would have on a quick range trip.
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This and make your range sessions count instead to just shooting at a target. Work on malfunction drills, target transitions, shooting on the move, etc. There are several videos out there that show you how to get quality sessions in with just 50-100 rounds
 
I don't sleep for shit, but has nothing to do with ammo...



NCDirtSlinger said:
I haven't bought any in a while, nor do I shoot a lot, but how in the world do people/ target shooters/ AR owners/ go out and shoot 100's of rounds a weekend of 9mm or other calibers for that matter?
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I am sure many have curbed their pure recreational shooting habits...BUT...If your training with your firearms, this is what you do, you shoot...grip to palm, stock to shoulder, and go at it...if its your passion, you just do it (insert Nike swoosh here).



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Every time you squeeze the trigger, do you think, "well there goes a dollar"?
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No, and if you do, you have no business even squeezing the trigger.



NCDirtSlinger said:
But who can afford to just waste it even at that amount?
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If your training, your not wasting anything.




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Do you guys think ammo will ever come down or do you think hoarding will just keep running the price up?
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What I think (believe)... ammo will never come back down to pre-covid prices, it will come back down...someday, not in the near future, but not back to what we once knew.



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What do us new gunners do, bite the bullet so to speak and pay up for ammo now?
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Yes...and you can always augment with additional dry-fire training, or purchase a quality air-soft toy to train with...many of these mimic the weight and feel of their actual firearm brethren. Find a .22 conversion kit for your AR. Think outside the box and don't let yourself get trapped inside of it.

Good Luck...hopefully these answers help you sleep better, cause that's as good as it gets, and I really, really, really wanted to be a smartass.



...and by the way, I have never "hoarded" ammo, but I have been an avid collector of ammo for a great many years.
 
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But who can afford to just waste it even at that amount?
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I think this is a very important statement you've made...

I don't consider any of the shots I take "wasted" even, if I miss my intended 🎯.

If you are "just shooting for fun" I can see why it wouldn't be worth "the bang for the buck"
 
I understand what you're saying, I took up offshore fishing in 2010-12 when gas was $4 a gallon.
An average trip to the Gulf Stream burnt 120-140 gallons.
That's just what it cost to do what I wanted to do.
Just like shooting, I made it count!
Shoot with purpose.
 
Truth be known, people do all kinds of things that makes no sense.
They cry for “stimulus” checks but they blast ammo that costs more than a weeks pay in a few hours. I realize that quite a few here on the forum do not seem to have money shortages and are able to do as they please. But others can’t and wonder how it is even possible considering the current climate.

The questions you and others ask are not without merit.

How can you do it at todays prices? I have no idea.
 
Tailhunter said:
The questions you and others ask are not without merit.
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The question certainly has merit, we've just beaten this horse so much over the last 6 months + it's impossible to come up with new responses. This whole topic is quickly approaching the "9 vs 45" level.
 
Tim said:
The question certainly has merit, we've just beaten this horse so much over the last 6 months + it's impossible to come up with new responses. This whole topic is quickly approaching the "9 vs 45" level.
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Well excuse me for asking the same question as someone else. At least I paid to ask.
 
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Now that I have your attention, serious question. I haven't bought any in a while, nor do I shoot a lot, but how in the world do people/ target shooters/ AR owners/ go out and shoot 100's of rounds a weekend of 9mm or other calibers for that matter? I mean you're seeing 9 going for close to $1 a round. Last two boxes I bought were $14.99 a box at Dunham's a little before Christmas 2020 and I bought them just because. I just can't seem to make myself go out there and pop one off. Every time you squeeze the trigger, do you think, "well there goes a dollar"? Or if you shoot 50 rounds, "there's $50 down the drain". I love guns, I swear I do. I have a bad infatuation with pistols. I want more and even though I'm so unfortunately broke right now, I find myself on here and a few more sites every night dreaming. I'm not a seasoned gun owner. I haven't saved up 10,000's of rounds of ammo. I just wonder how people do it. I would love to know what it's like to have enough money that I could shoot 100 rounds of 556 or 9, or even 30-06 for that matter. I have given $37 for 20 rounds of hunting ammo, then I've given .79 a round for military surplus. I thought I was getting a good deal in that, but to hear some say, I got ripped even then. But who can afford to just waste it even at that amount? Do you guys think ammo will ever come down or do you think hoarding will just keep running the price up? What do us new gunners do, bite the bullet so to speak and pay up for ammo now? I've asked several questions that hopefully won't rub anyone the wrong way. Don't want any smart butt answers. Just looking for guidance from the ones that are actually here to help.
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Well, here's what I do:

I don't go shooting as often. When I do, I shoot milsurps with cheaper ammo(that I've bought in bulk previously), like Ishapore 2A1 and Chilean Modelo 1912(both 308).
The limited magazines and bolt action drives down the number of rounds shot.

I'm probably going shooting with a guy down in Augusta in a few weeks, I know he has an AR. I'm only going to bring 1 magazine, and no speedloader, and I will bring, say, 150 rounds only. I hope that it will slow things down enough that only a portion will be used.

Basically, artificially slow things down to preserve ammo, and always bring extra for others.
 
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Now that I have your attention, serious question. I haven't bought any in a while, nor do I shoot a lot, but how in the world do people/ target shooters/ AR owners/ go out and shoot 100's of rounds a weekend of 9mm or other calibers for that matter? I mean you're seeing 9 going for close to $1 a round. Last two boxes I bought were $14.99 a box at Dunham's a little before Christmas 2020 and I bought them just because. I just can't seem to make myself go out there and pop one off. Every time you squeeze the trigger, do you think, "well there goes a dollar"? Or if you shoot 50 rounds, "there's $50 down the drain". I love guns, I swear I do. I have a bad infatuation with pistols. I want more and even though I'm so unfortunately broke right now, I find myself on here and a few more sites every night dreaming. I'm not a seasoned gun owner. I haven't saved up 10,000's of rounds of ammo. I just wonder how people do it. I would love to know what it's like to have enough money that I could shoot 100 rounds of 556 or 9, or even 30-06 for that matter. I have given $37 for 20 rounds of hunting ammo, then I've given .79 a round for military surplus. I thought I was getting a good deal in that, but to hear some say, I got ripped even then. But who can afford to just waste it even at that amount? Do you guys think ammo will ever come down or do you think hoarding will just keep running the price up? What do us new gunners do, bite the bullet so to speak and pay up for ammo now? I've asked several questions that hopefully won't rub anyone the wrong way. Don't want any smart butt answers. Just looking for guidance from the ones that are actually here to help.
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I just do other hobbies for a while. I'll come back to shooting when prices come down. I never sit on tons of ammo, as I like shooting, so if I have ammo I shoot it. If I have lots of ammo, then I shoot lots of it.
I keep a stash for self defense, but really I am not into guns for stock piling ammo or collecting cases of it "for when the ruskies come" or "when the SHTF". I only do it for fun.
So just doing other fun stuff for now.
 
For many of us, we have been at this for quite a while. I was buying cases of Tula/Wolf 9mm and 223 from Target Sports for years. About a year before Sandy Hook, I got into reloading 9mm, and stocked up when powder, bullets and primers were reasonably cheap. Now, I wish I had more primers, because I can still get bullets pretty cheap, and I have year's worth of powder. Now I'm new to reloading 45, and have a bunch of larger primer brass, and NO larger pistol primers. But, thanks to a very good dude on this forum, I'm getting a nice little chunk of larger primers for pre-covid prices, actually even better. There really are some amazing people on here that I'm so glad to be able to call a friend. So, there you have it. We/I started very early, stocked up over YEARS, and I still shoot just as much as I ever did, pretty much every Sunday. But, I never was one to just go blast for the hell of it. About everything @KellySue and I do drill wise has a purpose, so we don't just waste ammo.

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Rob said:
Well, that escalated quickly!
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Not escalated, just stating a fact. I don't feel like I owe anyone on here anything but I paid my membership. Funny thing is this, I just got a warning about using inappropriate language. Wonder if people leaving smart comments got a warning too? Probably not.



Maybe the rule should be changed to POST STOMPING instead of ad stomping because some of you are on here just for that.
 
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Not escalated, just stating a fact. I don't feel like I owe anyone on here anything but I paid my membership. Funny thing is this, I just got a warning about using inappropriate language. Wonder if people leaving smart comments got a warning too? Probably not.



Maybe the rule should be changed to POST STOMPING instead of ad stomping because some of you are on here just for that.
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Post are open discussions if you only want people to respond that agree with everything you post you're probably not going to find that here.
If things don't work out here I know a Canadian forum you may like
 
S4f said:
Post are open discussions if you only want people to respond that agree with everything you post you're probably not going to find that here.
If things don't work out here I know a Canadian forum you may like
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Couldn't be much worse from my experience here in just a short time.
 
NCDirtSlinger said:
Not escalated, just stating a fact. I don't feel like I owe anyone on here anything but I paid my membership. Funny thing is this, I just got a warning about using inappropriate language. Wonder if people leaving smart comments got a warning too? Probably not.



Maybe the rule should be changed to POST STOMPING instead of ad stomping because some of you are on here just for that.
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you may have paid to play, but that doesn’t give you carte blanche to act like a brat.
just saying. Seems to be a Recurring theme in your posting.
 
If I had time to shoot I would. But here goes.

As stated before, some of us have been through some tough times with ammo shortages and almost no components.

I reload. Most of my primer were bought at or around $30 a 1k. Some were brought as cheap as $20 a 1k. I'm not stuck on one primer as I load for small pistol, large pistol, small rifle, and large rifle. I have a minimum of 5k of each.

I have enough powder that I need to build a magazine for it to keep me out of trouble with a fire marshal.

Brass. Plenty on hand for whay I shoot.

Bullets. Well I can cast for every thing I own. .380, 9mm, 40 cal,.45, .357, .223, .308. I also have a supply of lead and we powder coat.

Got my presses and other equipment. How long has it taken me to get here? The last 12 years for some of it and over 30 for all of it.

There use to be a Wal-Mart tax at this house. Every time I went to Wal-Mart there was a $20 tax. That was the cost of a box of Winchester white box 9mm. There was also when They dropped the price on a box of 50 Remington 9mm to like $7.99. I drove to a bunch of surrounding WM and bought up 1k of it. Lastly when WM quit selling pistol ammo I made out like a bandit. It was several hundred dollars. More over my limit than usual.

So there you go. There was the picture of Walt and the kid posted above. My grand sons will reap the benefits of my planning.



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NCDirtSlinger said:
And it doesn't give others the right to act like pricks either but here they are.
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Don't want any smart butt answers. Just looking for guidance from the ones that are actually here to help.
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Well you did set the hostel tone in your op, last line. And then clapped back at a Mod Subtly telling you your answer might have been found by reading the forum...


Soooooo.....

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