War in Ukraine (World War III)

BlackGun said:
We don’t even have to fight a war for us to be spending heavily on it. Your taxes are once again spent on a war that will go on for a decade. With supplies, arms, and cash we are reaching 150 billion one estimate states.
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While Ukrainians have been portrayed as fighting a valiant war against Russia, the country's government remains as corrupt as ever, but with billions more to loot.
 
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🔥 Unherd published an article yesterday headlined, “Ukraine Government Issues Blacklist of ‘Russian Propagandists’.” The gist is, the Ukrainians are labeling anyone who has questioned NATO policy or suggested compromise with the Russians as a solution to end the conflict.

On July 14th, Ukraine’s government-run Center for Countering Disinformation published a list of politicians, academics, and activists who are “promoting Russian propaganda” — including Republican Senator Rand Paul, former Democrat Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, military analyst Edward Luttwak, political scientist John Mearsheimer and popular journalist Glenn Greenwald.

Several of the folks on the list were very concerned, although Glenn had some spicy comments. Among other things, he said,

“The Ukrainians have the absolute right to pursue whatever war policies they want. But when they start demanding that my country and my government use its resources to fuel their war effort, then I, along with all other Americans, have the absolute right to question that policy or to point out its dangers and risks. I don’t care at all about Ukraine’s attempts to shut down debate in our country by smearing journalists and politicians who are questioning US/NATO policy as being Russian propagandists. That tactic is as inconsequential as it is cheap, tawdry, and discredited.”
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Seems reasonable.

Blacklisting Americans seems like a really good way to fuel even MORE criticism of your side rather than accomplishing anything helpful. Still, it’s nothing new for the former comedian turned war president. From the October 22, 2021 edition of the UK Guardian:

 
Putin is a "Russia First" nationalist. That's why the globalists hate him. Ukrane is (and has for years been) a favorite place where globalists and elites go to launder money. I don't know who's right or wrong in this conflict, but I do know which side constantly lies to us. Russia's economy also ranks just below Italy's, so I'm not seeing them as having the ability to be a global menace even if they wanted to be.

I have a hunch history will show we're on the wrong side in this debacle.
 
"Russia's economy also ranks just below Italy's, so I'm not seeing them as having the ability to be a global menace even if they wanted to be."

Don't discount their nuclear arsenal and icbms.
 
Bear in mind that, as opposed to money, the actual weapons and munitions being supplied to Ukraine are probably stuff the military wants to get rid of so they can buy shiny new stuff more quickly than originally planned.
 
gc70 said:
Bear in mind that, as opposed to money, the actual weapons and munitions being supplied to Ukraine are probably stuff the military wants to get rid of so they can buy shiny new stuff more quickly than originally planned.
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So tax payers get f'ed twice.
 
Everything written in media about the war is filtered through a NATO functionary, the Atlantic Council. A little background on their efforts...

https://nationsinaction.org/the-atlantic-councils-war-drums/

Their membership, a virtual who's who of globalist American politicians...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_Council

The council is quite proud of these people, note their positions in light of current policy positions of the grifter in chief...

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/new...ity-appointed-to-biden-harris-administration/

In case you might be wondering what the Briben administration is getting for YOUR money...

https://ussanews.com/2022/07/18/fla...-begs-ukraine-not-to-investigate-biden-tapes/
 
What is 10% of the amount of "aid" the US has sent to Ukraine in less than six months?
 
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I just saw something that said North Korea is offering to send 100k “volunteers” to help Russia defeat fascism in the Ukraine.


Well at least 100k of them might have a fighting chance to get out of that crap hole.

www.westernjournal.com

North Korea Reportedly Ready to Send 100,000 Troops to Bolster Russian Forces in Ukraine

There are rumors that North Korea is willing to send 100,000 'volunteer' troops to help Russia in its war against Ukraine.
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I’m confused. I thought the warlords of the US military said Russia was going to move on NATO nations such as Poland and Putin wanted to restore the empire to 1970 status? No even an advance on the Ukraine eastern flank. That PoS Zelenskyy needs a drone visit so negotiations can begin. He is milking US like a cash cow.
 
Statement by Alexander Dugin

 
 
Windini said:
Who dug up this old thread?!
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I thought Scott Ritter did a great job in that interview, and if started a new thread some Karen would bring up this one.
 
I’m kinda anxiously awaiting to see what the Russkies will do as retaliation for the murder of an non-combative innocent women. Will they target the Ukrainians or us?
 
CZfool68 said:
I’m kinda anxiously awaiting to see what the Russkies will do as retaliation for the murder of an non-combative innocent women. Will they target the Ukrainians or us?
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Considering we're funding and arming and supplying logistics for the whole thing they'd be justified in either
 
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Considering we're funding and arming and supplying logistics for the whole thing they'd be justified in either
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I’m just hoping the blow back hits the right people and no innocents. Or in other words, I’m hoping the Russian Evil doers are more competent than ours. And how messed up is it that that’s where things are?
 
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Timing of US drone delivery to Ukraine revealed
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The Pentagon is still working on a contract to provide heavier Switchblade 600 loitering munitions, Defense News reported

A contract to supply ten ‘kamikaze drones’ to Ukraine, which was announced months ago, is expected within 30 days, Defense News reported on Monday, citing a Pentagon spokesperson.

The actual delivery date for the weapons, Switchblade 600 loitering munitions, also known as ‘kamikaze drones’, will be set after the contract is finalized, the representative, Jessica Maxwell, said in an email, the military news website said.

Russia releases video of suspected Moscow car bomber
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Footage shows the Ukrainian citizen entering the country and leaving it after assassinating Darya Dugina

Russia’s Federal Security Service (FSB) has made public a video of Ukrainian national Natalya Vovk, identified as the prime suspect in Saturday’s car bombing that killed journalist Darya Dugina in Moscow. The footage published Monday shows Vovk and her teenage daughter entering Russia, inside the building where Dugina lived, and leaving the country in haste.

Vovk, 43, was named by the FSB on Monday as the prime suspect in the assassination of Dugina. The Ukrainian national arrived in Russia on July 23, using Donetsk People’s Republic license plates to avoid scrutiny.

‘We should kill as many Russians as we can’ – Ukrainian envoy
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The remarks reveal the ‘terrorist’ nature of the Kiev regime, Russia says

Ukraine is doing its best to “kill as many Russians” as possible, the nation’s ambassador to Kazakhstan, Pyotr Vrublevsky, told local media outlets on Monday.

Speaking to a local blogger, Vrublevsky was asked to comment on the ongoing Ukraine conflict. “What can I say … We are trying to kill as many [Russians] as possible. The more Russians we kill now, the fewer our children will have to. That’s it,” he said.

EU considering ‘big Ukraine mission’ – top diplomat
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The bloc will discuss a program to train Ukrainian troops next week

The EU is considering establishing a major program to train Ukrainian troops in neighboring nations, the bloc’s top diplomat, Josep Borrell, has said. EU defense ministers will discuss the matter during a meeting in Prague on August 29.

“I hope it will be approved,” Borrell stated on the sidelines of a forum in Santander, Spain on Monday. “Of course, it would be a big mission,” he said, adding that the training program “has to be up to the level of the conflict.”

British soldiers told to get ready for war against Russia - and prepare loved ones
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Warrant Officer Paul Carney said soldiers should prepare their families for the possibility of being sent to Ukraine to fight Russia in the war which has now been going on six months

The Army’s top “other ranks” soldier says troops must be ready to fight Russia – and should alert loved ones to a potential conflict.

Warrant Officer Paul Carney warned that the UK military was now “shaping itself to meet the threat from Russia and was ready to counter any aggression”.

The time had come to prepare “families and loved ones” for the possibility of being sent to the East. He said the world had changed since Vladimir Putin ’s invasion of Ukraine on February 23 – six months ago on Tuesday – and British troops “must be prepared for new realities”.
 

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Russia releases video of the bomber who murdered Dugin’s daughter.


Several thoughts on the video. Intelligence is a weird culture. I have told you, these people use their children as cover, risking their lives, and here she is, using her 13 year old daughter, and risking her life. And her daughter was probably spying on kids at school, being put on this same path. She apparently was not suspected of much as she entered, given the cursory examination of her car. I would assume she got a passing look by a few surveillance people once inside, coming from a Ukrainian territory, even Donbass. When they saw her switch plates, they realized she was up to something. That she would switch plates makes me think she herself has no idea how surveillance works, as there would be no better way to turn a couple of people told to keep an eye on you, into a 100 person team told to document your every move. In America, switching plates might even set off automated alarms if it was picked up by a license plate reader that a plate that was registered getting on a highway and was not picked up on the highway after a rest stop, and a new plate which was not registered getting on the highway suddenly popped up on it. And LPRs are hidden everywhere now. You can’t get in or out of my neighborhood without a quasi hidden one registering your plate. Sharp eye’d viewers will notice other things at one point in the video, showing she likely attracted attention for some reason. I would assume the failure of the door to open was done purposely to bring her in to get the good picture of her face, and could also have been to slow her down, and give a team tossing her room time to exfil. On her way out at the border, by the way they went over her car, they had figured out she was up to something.

I am not an expert in the state of the art in the field, but one, according to one article, she had to get 9 lbs of TNT either through customs, or have it delivered to her while under surveillance, and there was no guarantee there would not be a dog sniffing for explosives at a checkpoint with Ukraine. I tend to think that is something pointing to this being more than just some Azov flunkies acting on their own. As well, she had to have multiple license plates concealed in a way which the border guards would not find them, and full intelligence leading her to her target – again, more than just a civilian level of tradecraft and support. She had to have training, and enough she could function, even if Russia deployed a full surveillance package on her. She probably required some level of a support network in country, including some monitoring her operation from a distance for command, and the guy who filmed the aftermath and focused on Dugin instead of the fireball, because he knew who he was from a briefing package, and was confirming for command the hit was a miss. And finally, she brought her 13 year old daughter, which is a pro-move, given if caught, her daughter could have been accidently dropped in the male general population in Siberia for the next 60 years. Regular people don’t do that with their children, only those raised in the intelligence world do.

I would say CIA would not be this stupid, but after seeing Brennan, and Strzok, and McCabe, and all the clowns sent into Trump’s campaign, and all the flunkies over the years who thought they could do anything, and who take everything so personally, it would not surprise me if this was them. Hopefully if it was, they covered their tracks better than with Trump, or this could turn into a world war.

The woman is typical though for the type you will see around you, and the sadness of the situation, the waste, is the same too. She could easily have found a guy who would be loyal to her, raised a family with him, made some money with him, grown old watching grandkids play on grass. But here she is, 40-something, no home, working for peanuts, risking turning her own daughter into a lifelong toy for prisoners in Siberia, a tattooed single mom, probably having to wonder if her own people will kill her and her daughter now, to tie them off, and prevent this from being tracked back to her command. Hunted across the globe by one of the most fearsome intelligence services. And for what? Country? It is a toy for billionaires ripping off western treasuries. Zelensky? Think he will offer her any of those billions he is squirreling away in Latin America as he play acts leader from some basement acting set with Polish power sockets in the walls? Biden? Soros? They all laugh at her sacrifice, like she is a fool. If she lives, and she probably won’t, she will be discarded, scrounging for change, while the billionaires forget she ever existed. The only noble fight in the world is against Cabal.

I was once the guy who couldn’t understand the anti-war types, who acted like sacrifice for country was laughably stupid. I was personally offended by that position. I was offended by Sonny Corleone criticizing Michael, and getting mad. I even was puzzled by Smedley D. Butler, though I thought at some elite level, there were probably people profiting who wanted the wars, and that was wrong. But they were all right. You spend a few years looking at the US domestic intel infrastructure arrayed against your people, and see how things really work, you will come full circle. In this world, the only real war, is between you and your loved ones, and the power structures above them leading to Cabal, who want you under their thumb, or destroyed, if you have enough potential. And if you do volunteer to serve, and you are not in the club, it is probably more likely than not that when it comes time for someone to die, they will make sure it is you who catches the bullet, if they don’t Pat Tillman you outright. And then shake their head at your stupidity, as with this girl. I look at her, and marvel at the waste of her, all to kill the daughter of a man with an opinion, who wasn’t even in government. For fake leaders installed in rigged elections, who are hired by elites who want to
 
There was no gain to Ukraine to do the hit. Russia possibly has internal enemies she wasn't aware of...unless, the target was becoming inconvenient for Putin or the FSB and was eliminated in such a way to bring heat on Ukraine or whatever internal group the FSB wishes to hang this on
 
rufrdr said:
There was no gain to Ukraine to do the hit. Russia possibly has internal enemies she wasn't aware of...unless, the target was becoming inconvenient for Putin or the FSB and was eliminated in such a way to bring heat on Ukraine or whatever internal group the FSB wishes to hang this on
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You are assuming Zellensky and the whack jobs of the Azov are rational actors. And that someone/one’s in the West doesn’t want a larger conflict. This ain’t your grand daddy’s world.
 
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